New Rule Proposal.

[Hell Atlantic]

this league is the best, btw. its the only reason why i came back and i'm glad i did.

did you see my fucking stud franchise QB??!? hot balls of Jesus!

[JesterBlaze]

i just think it's rather telling that jester would consider quitting the league if, dare we say it - it became more competitive! dun dun DUNNN. you mean if we made it harder to keep guys he aquired he wouldn't want to participate.

This has been a long term drafting league for 5 years. I joined because I like a long term drafting league. There are plenty of 2-3 sim/week quick moving leagues out there with the no negotiations until last year rule. I don't join them because I don't like that style.

If this turns into the best run hockey sim league... I'm outta here. If this turns into the best run basketball sim league... I'm outta here.

And yes if this turns into another league for absentee GMs to take time off (probably to focus on their many leagues) and then return to make up for lost time in a simple game of offer more money to guys in a list... yeah, I'm outta here. Why should I bother to spend hours scouring draft classes in that scenerio? Why not just take the lazy man's approach and wait until free agency when I can sort by whatever criteria I want and have the gall to call it "working my magic"?

I've got the knowledge to flourish in any system we play. I also have the ability to play online games that are fun for me. Changing my players every 3 years and having no idea ahead of time if I'll be doing so because I have to wait until that specific year to see the contract request is not my idea of fun. I don't want 53 players of a certain skillset on my roster. I want the specific 53 that I drafted and all the IFL lore that they've brought so far and will continue to bring.

jester wasn't so hot when his team started off 0-8. that only happened two seasons ago i think. where was all his expert advice then and why wasn't he following it? i haven't ever started off 0-8. it was so bad i thought he was tanking cuz you gotta try hard to lose 8 games in a row.

Your team is 0-11. Not 11 games. 11 fuckin' SEASONS!!

My team never started off 0-8 so get your facts straight.

I started off 1-8 and you publicly stated that it was a sign of things to come and my team was done. How'd that sage foresight work out? I only won the whole thing the next season.

Where was my advice when I was in an 8 game losing streak? The same place my 2-3 missed exports and lack of any real focus were: On real life issues that were nobody's business. So put that in your "all those options only give the appearance of control" pipe and smoke it!

[Matt]

holy cow.

i'm gone for a day and DG goes off again?

seriously, if you have a shitty team, you draft high, you get better players, you get better, you win.....

or

you have a shitty team, you have high draft picks, you trade that high draft pick for "current" talent, your team is better, you win......

simple logic.

to be honest guys, IMO Cy has given us the best reason to not do the last yr negotiation rule. It may mildly help, but not significantly enough to alter the game we're already playing.

[Chris Rex]

George, what other league are you in?

Even time I read this, tears of laughter fill my eyes. Again!!

[Chris Rex]

man... remember the good old days... last season?

[Jave]

Even time I read this, tears of laughter fill my eyes. Again!!

Yea haha, I was rolling to. You have to admire how patient Sui was, that was the best part!!

[Chris Rex]

Yea haha, I was rolling to. You have to admire how patient Sui was, that was the best part!!

I don't think repeating the question was patience so much as brilliant comedic timing.

[CyYoung]

half the people who posted in here dont understand what effect we are looking for reguardless.


Some think its to fix the cap problem.


Some think its to increase free agency.


No I believe my main point was to stop people from offering huge amounts of money just to out bid another person then never have to honor the contract. like I said I could offer somone 111.5 mil just to get them off the free agent market and only be responsible for 11.5 mil of it and just reneg it down and everyone on gods green earth would know the only reason i offered 111.5 was just to screw someone else out of getting the guy. putting the rule into place would prevent over bidding and never paying. Would force owners to pay the buying price on their free agents and yes it has been the opinion that it would HELP the free agent market a LITTLE bit.

If you want to achieve only that, this rule will obviously do the job, but some here talked about the cap problem and a better free agent class and this rule will not achieve that.

[Jave]

If you want to achieve only that, this rule will obviously do the job, but some here talked about the cap problem and a better free agent class and this rule will not achieve that.

I understand the point of what DG is saying, but I would never vote for it. I don't want to be told when and for how much I can sign free agents or players on my team. As long as the league allows me to run Oakland, let me run it and make the decisions. In the 4 years I have been GM of Oakland, I have NEVER, not ONE time, done something to intentionally circumvent the rules or to "get over" on the league. I don't need rules in place to prevent me from doing it either. I don't do it because A. I don't need to, and B. I respect the league and my fellow owners to much to do something that would screw them over.

Don't insult me and treat me like a child because I may do it. If I do, boot me from my position as general manager. Don't handcuff me and tell me how to run my team. Thank you very much.

[BuddaKINGII]

lol what is this thread about and how has this become about Jester? Time to move on guys...is this something about blurring the lines?

[r00k]

George, what other league are you in?

the answer was none btw as i am pming him.

The obvious followup to this information is whether DG has ever participated in a FOF MP league?

If not, that in part, does help me to better understand:
________________________
St. Sends 4.9 & 4.30

To Dakota In exchange for

6.8, 6.9, 7.9
Little Rocks 20015 3rd
Dakotas 4th & 5th in 2015 &
4th & 5th in 2016

(my opinion only, but the trade above is every bit as controversial and far reaching as the Torres issue)
________________________

If so, and to paraphrase Boston and any other seasoned MP GM, "WTF!". But that aside, it does open another door as to what circumstances resulted in DG to no longer participate in those leagues? Could be lots of reasons .. just so Dustin Shipman, in disguise, isn't one of them.

DG, I have held my tongue and sorry if you feel this may be a tad personal but before I react or vote on a proposal with nonintelligble English (discluding?) I have to respond to what has brought us to this point in our ongoing league development.

I have witnessed your first hand direspect in these threads to the founder of this league and the current commisioners. What that says to the lay observer is not only did you not take the time to understand who were the recipients of your barbs but more importantly you don't seem to care. That in my book is trouncing on the time and effort that these guys have brought to the development of one of the most envied MP leagues that exist. Totally unfair to people who have contibuted so much and for much much longer than the efforts of your recent crusade.

You have been outspoken and for that I applaud you. And you have also been brash. DG, one should earn the right to be brash and to that end, your tenure in the league is not quite up to snuff.

One sidebar observation: your debating style suggests your age ... and if I am right, it reveals that you are a bit younger than most who are in this league. Constantly having to make your point is monotonous. 'Tools" are no longer suggestive references to male body parts but are implements that we big boys find in the garage. I can go on but this is probably the reason why many are not getting baited into an unpleasant tete-a-tetes. In that alone, there is a bit of class, just in case you do not recognize it.

[DakotaGeorge]

The obvious followup to this information is whether DG has ever participated in a FOF MP league?

If not, that in part, does help me to better understand:
________________________
St. Sends 4.9 & 4.30

To Dakota In exchange for

6.8, 6.9, 7.9
Little Rocks 20015 3rd
Dakotas 4th & 5th in 2015 &
4th & 5th in 2016

(my opinion only, but the trade above is every bit as controversial and far reaching as the Torres issue)
________________________

If so, and to paraphrase Boston and any other seasoned MP GM, "WTF!". But that aside, it does open another door as to what circumstances resulted in DG to no longer participate in those leagues? Could be lots of reasons .. just so Dustin Shipman, in disguise, isn't one of them.

DG, I have held my tongue and sorry if you feel this may be a tad personal but before I react or vote on a proposal with nonintelligble English (discluding?) I have to respond to what has brought us to this point in our ongoing league development.

I have witnessed your first hand direspect in these threads to the founder of this league and the current commisioners. What that says to the lay observer is not only did you not take the time to understand who were the recipients of your barbs but more importantly you don't seem to care. That in my book is trouncing on the time and effort that these guys have brought to the development of one of the most envied MP leagues that exist. Totally unfair to people who have contibuted so much and for much much longer than the efforts of your recent crusade.

You have been outspoken and for that I applaud you. And you have also been brash. DG, one should earn the right to be brash and to that end, your tenure in the league is not quite up to snuff.

One sidebar observation: your debating style suggests your age ... and if I am right, it reveals that you are a bit younger than most who are in this league. Constantly having to make your point is monotonous. 'Tools" are no longer suggestive references to male body parts but are implements that we big boys find in the garage. I can go on but this is probably the reason why many are not getting baited into an unpleasant tete-a-tetes. In that alone, there is a bit of class, just in case you do not recognize it.

I love how everyone gets off topic and make a thread about me or whats good for my team. Some of you are real homers. Can you please stay on topic and lets write things that actually have something to do with the rule. If you wanna start a thread to bad mouth me go ahead. I seriously wouldn't mind it. But quit spewing this garbage in a thread where we are here to debate a rule.

[Chris Rex]

ARGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MAKE IT STOP!

[Pirates]

If you dont write, no one will come.

[BuddaKINGII]

lol this is good.