New Rule Proposal.

[Jave]

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Take this as you will DG.......

[CyYoung]

Actually I had 2 complaints that were linked to eachother. The Cap and the Outragous contracts. I never said my team sucked. I never said the draft prospects sucked. I mean how much more garbage do you have to pull out of no where and bring up that I said but didnt. In the words of Jim Callhoun. GET SOME FACTS AND COME BACK AND SEE ME.

Honestly, I feel exactly like Coder and I know that a lot of people here feels the same. You should look at your post more closely. Coder made a good post without attacking you and you get back to him the same way all your posts are done. Going for his head.

[JesterBlaze]

This rule will pass and you and Jester can do one of these jobs

I won't be panicking. My reaction will be swift and may come as a surprise but it won't be panic at that point.

[Pirates]

Don't take that personally Pirates.

I agree with you, you had the rights to sign Torres and resigning him the year after so there's no big deal. You did nothing wrong, but it would be nice to have a rule against it.

Also, we can't call it overpaying for a player when half the league is bidding on this player an several offers are close of the one that signs the player.

At first I did, I am over it now. Thanks for the concern though it is appreciated. I dont have a problem with that rule.

[BOSS]

I would be in favor of this. Easy to do and eliminates the problem.

I don't see how that would eliminate the problem. This proposed rule is easy to follow and will improve the free agency class.

In this league, the good teams stay good because they can re-sign anybody they want on their roster. Money is not an issue at all.

The only way a lower tier team can become good in this league is through the draft. The free agency class offers them nothing. With this rule, hopefully some 50's rated players will be available or maybe some 60 rated old players. These type of players can start for them while they just ride the bench on the good teams. The lower tier teams need a little more help then just the draft to get good. They could benefit acquiring players from teams in the last year of their contract that a team knows they will not be able to afford the next year.

[DakotaGeorge]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xokthY5zuPU


lol

"You want some advice?
Ya
Shut up!"

Jim Calhoun

[tarcone]

I don't see how that would eliminate the problem. This proposed rule is easy to follow and will improve the free agency class.

In this league, the good teams stay good because they can re-sign anybody they want on their roster. Money is not an issue at all.

The only way a lower tier team can become good in this league is through the draft. The free agency class offers them nothing. With this rule, hopefully some 50's rated players will be available or maybe some 60 rated old players. These type of players can start for them while they just ride the bench on the good teams. The lower tier teams need a little more help then just the draft to get good. They could benefit acquiring players from teams in the last year of their contract that a team knows they will not be able to afford the next year.

I went 4-12, 6-10, 8-8 and 13-3 the last 4 seasons. I didnt have the opportunity to sign super FAs. I did it through the draft and trading.
This season I added a FS rated in the upper 50s. I went out and got him. Every other team had the same chance as me. But I outbid the lower tier teams.
I dont see how this rule is going to help lower tier teams that much, when they wont go out and get the upper 50 rated guys that currently reside in our current FA system.
This league is about drafting and trading.

[Suicane]

George, what other league are you in?

[CyYoung]

Rule B mr Young would offset your idea of how Rule A would work. who is going to pay a guy 32 million yr 4? because you would have to honor all his years contracts.

Somebody with 75 millions under the cap???

I said it before I'm in the NAFL and we have this rule and there's still crazy contract given to players.

Here are some contract given to free agents this year in the NAFL

4 yr, 73,75 millions to a 63/63 linebacker (5th season)
2 yr, 60 millions to a 71/71 rated guard (12th season)
5 yr, 57 millions to a 55/55 rated center (7th season)
3 yr, 31 millions to a 45/45 rated RT (5th season
2 yr, 31 millions to a 49/49 rated WR (11th season)
3 yr, 29 millions to a 51/51 rated WR (9th season)

Oh and by the way, the linebacker and the center were free agents because a GM didn't take care of his team and left just before the offseason

[Jave]

I won't vote for anymore "blanket rules" much like the one that just screwed me. I was not trying to "get over" on the rest of the league because I offered Edelstein $100,000 more in bonus then salary. The truth is, I fucking forgot he was a UFA. Not a single person this entire free agency made him ONE offer until I offered him a contract. 2 days ago. But since we had that blanket rule stating you cannot offer a player more bonus then salary, the contract was vetoed.

I can see this rule being more of a problem then a solution much like the bonus/salary rule and it just makes Sui and Matt's job that much more difficult and makes the league less fun when everytime you want to do anything, you have to load up the consitiution and make sure your not breaking any rules.

I will however give a "yes" vote to rejecting any more rule proposials by DakotaGeorge. STFU and enjoy the league for what it is. I'm sick of hearing you every 3 days bitch and moan that this sucks, and that sucks and we should change things around here. It's not perfect, but last I checked every owner in this league enjoys being here and enjoys the game. If your still here in a year, which I doubt you will be since you have no more draft picks, then we can revisit your brilliant ideas.

[tarcone]

I won't vote for anymore "blanket rules" much like the one that just screwed me. I was not trying to "get over" on the rest of the league because I offered Edelstein $100,000 more in bonus then salary. The truth is, I fucking forgot he was a UFA. Not a single person this entire free agency made him ONE offer until I offered him a contract. 2 days ago. But since we had that blanket rule stating you cannot offer a player more bonus then salary, the contract was vetoed.

I can see this rule being more of a problem then a solution much like the bonus/salary rule and it just makes Sui and Matt's job that much more difficult and makes the league less fun when everytime you want to do anything, you have to load up the consitiution and make sure your not breaking any rules.

I will however give a "yes" vote to rejecting any more rule proposials by DakotaGeorge. STFU and enjoy the league for what it is. I'm sick of hearing you every 3 days bitch and moan that this sucks, and that sucks and we should change things around here. It's not perfect, but last I checked every owner in this league enjoys being here and enjoys the game. If your still here in a year, which I doubt you will be since you have no more draft picks, then we can revisit your brilliant ideas.

I hope he isnt here in a year. Really, I hope he leaves today. Im afraid if he stays there will be several great GMs who wont. And that will be a sad chapter in the great history of the IFL

[JesterBlaze]

I went 4-12, 6-10, 8-8 and 13-3 the last 4 seasons. I didn't have the opportunity to sign super FAs. I did it through the draft and trading.

This league is about drafting and trading.

Proofo facto of what a knowledgeable GM can do. And please go back and note that he didn't give up the future as Andrews fell to 11, 12, 13, 14....

Nor did he do so with Brock Heath.

[CyYoung]

I don't see how that would eliminate the problem. This proposed rule is easy to follow and will improve the free agency class.

In this league, the good teams stay good because they can re-sign anybody they want on their roster. Money is not an issue at all.

The only way a lower tier team can become good in this league is through the draft. The free agency class offers them nothing. With this rule, hopefully some 50's rated players will be available or maybe some 60 rated old players. These type of players can start for them while they just ride the bench on the good teams. The lower tier teams need a little more help then just the draft to get good. They could benefit acquiring players from teams in the last year of their contract that a team knows they will not be able to afford the next year.

This rule will not get the free agent class better. We have this rule for 4-5 seasons now in the NAFL and I saw no difference at all. People are cutting more backups and sign rookies to take their spot to prevent cutting good players. If they really have to part ways with them, they will trade em, but there will not be more good free agents.

Again, I think this rule can be good to force GMs to live with the contracts they give to players, but I just want to say that it will not change the free agent class.

here's the FA class for this offseason. Keep in mind that the Panthers and Seahawks GM leaved during the offseason and didn't take care of their team so these guys are normally not there.

You take out these guys and there's an old guard at 77 and 5 guys in the 50 range and that's it. Nothing else but backups

[SteveBsFan]

I honestly don't see how any rule put in place would prevent the 'lebron james' theory, aside from randomly picking a few players from each team and telling the owners they can't re-sign them because the player wants to test free agency.

I do agree it's completely unrealistic for the Torres thing, but should we put in a rule because of that? Randy Moss went to the Pats and has re-worked his contract in the middle of it. Brady has also done the same. Plenty of players in the league re-work their contracts. So while the Torres thing is unrealistic (it would be like Haynsworth taking a massive pay cut next season), we can't just alter league rules because of it.

If you want a fix, complain over and over to Jim and maybe he'll put in a patch to make players more stubborn, less likely to take pay cuts, and more likely to want to test the FA market.

As far as the other thing (extending the bonus rule), i'm against it. In fact, i'm against anything that forces teams to spend bonus money. If a person wants to offer a player 200% bonus per year for a player, that just puts them deeper into cap trouble if the guy shits the bed. It seems the bonus rule is working against the general theme of what people want, which is tighter caps on teams.

[CyYoung]

I honestly don't see how any rule put in place would prevent the 'lebron james' theory, aside from randomly picking a few players from each team and telling the owners they can't re-sign them because the player wants to test free agency.

I do agree it's completely unrealistic for the Torres thing, but should we put in a rule because of that? Randy Moss went to the Pats and has re-worked his contract in the middle of it. Brady has also done the same. Plenty of players in the league re-work their contracts. So while the Torres thing is unrealistic (it would be like Haynsworth taking a massive pay cut next season), we can't just alter league rules because of it.

It's not exactly true

When a player reneg in the NFL, the team just replace salary by guaranteed money so they can take the hit on a couple seasons. No player ever take a 50% pay cut while in thier prime only one year after signing his contract.