2014 Contract Violations

[JesterBlaze]

Maybe I feel a little burned too since I was offering a contract to him. Still how is that a fair chance? If I want someone in free agency now I need to offer 40 mil bonus to even have a shot?

Again this is very simple: We all the the same amount of cap space and play by the same rules. That's the definition of fair.

Whatever's pissing you guys off at least calm down enough to post intelligently because unfairness is NOT what it is. It's unfair to single people out for "exploiting" when they've done absolutely nothing wrong and have played within the same rules as everyone else.

And extending this rule just makes people bid with non-bonus money and restructure the deal. This deal is now in place and Reno will live with it and be $7M shorter in the bidding war for the next few years. What's wrong with that?

[Hell Atlantic]

it's not unfair. as long as it's legal why should someone else be limited in aquiring players just cuz you're not willing to go above and beyond? if someone wants to offer a stupid unrealistic (but legal) contract then that's their problem. just cuz you want to play it safe doesn't mean everyone has to do it your way. i have a TON of cap space and have spent more on average-at-best backups than i ever have. the economy in our league is that a backup 45/45 rated player is not worth what a backup average player makes in the NFL. in the IFL a backup 45/45 rated player is worth whatever the most eager GM is looking to pay to aquire him, whether it's justifiable or not. average players may not get $35million bonuses in the real world, but in our IFL world they do cuz cap space doesn't carry over to the next year, so in a way its wasted money. i certainly don't need to have $28million in cap space with only 4 spots to fill (and that's counting the 3 draftees i just picked up). that's too much money to leave on the table. i'm actually looking to lock up a lot of my players to long term deals while i have the money, i rather see my $$$ go towards retaining REAL talent than the imaginary "talent" that people overpay for. that's just me. my way isn't the only way and just cuz someone doesn't operate their team like i do doesn't make it "unfair". adjust your knowledge of pro football when playing FOF. the two aren't related closely. more like distant cousins.

[Kobeck]

I upped the contract offer to Burnett to like $20+m over like 5 yrs, just trying to keep the team intact for Warhammer. No way I would have thought nearly double would have been required, but unfair - NO not unfair at all.

[DakotaGeorge]

I upped the contract offer to Burnett to like $20+m over like 5 yrs, just trying to keep the team intact for Warhammer. No way I would have thought nearly double would have been required, but unfair - NO not unfair at all.

I think it was stated that ALL contracts to ALL playres not this specific case with ungodly bonuses like that are bullshit. Furthermore these people offer 80 mil dollar contracts and negotiate them the next season for half that. So no one ever has to honor the amount of money they offered to outbid someone else so why not offer that TE rated 50 100 mil over 5 years hell you wont have to pay it so why not. You pay the first year of the contract so just back load the other years and reneg it the following season and you wont EVER have to honor it.

[DakotaGeorge]

Would it be cool if i offered that TE

bonus 10 million

year 1 1.5 mil
year 2 10mil
year 3 20 mil
year 4 30 mil
year 5 40 mil


really id only have to pay 11.5 mil of that contract because the following year he would reneg for ALOT less on the other 4 years but in the case of the bidding war in free agency I could have offered him 112 mil? and only be really liable for 11.5 of it? This is bullshit. This is an outrage. This is an absolute exploit. Oh and if he didnt reneg low enough I could just cut him and again only be liable for 11.5 mil.

[BuddaKINGII]

No one is getting pissed jester like always Dakota blows things out of proprtion takes things an runs with it. I could less what you guys think is unfair and fair. That's fine, ill just use the same exploits everyone else is using then. I could give a rat-ass about Burnett. I just think it's a shame everyone has to use any little exploit just to get any edge. Bunch of hogwash...

HA I could care less what you think. Just because you traded 15 picks to get a #1 qb doesn't mean you know shit. Your playoffless team with no depth the last 5 yrs is all the evidence I need. There will be 3, 4, 5 qbs that will be just as good as your guy. Give me a break about who kﻨnows how to make better moves.

[JesterBlaze]

ex⋅ploit


–noun a striking or notable deed; feat; spirited or heroic act: the exploits of Alexander the Great.

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[DakotaGeorge]

I know your being sarcastic but stop acting like a tool lol.


ex⋅ploit

2   /ɪkˈsplɔɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ik-sploit] Show IPA –verb (used with object)

1.	to utilize, esp. for profit; turn to practical account: to exploit a business opportunity.

***2.

to use selfishly for one's own ends: employers who exploit their workers.***

[Hell Atlantic]

No one is getting pissed jester like always Dakota blows things out of proprtion takes things an runs with it. I could less what you guys think is unfair and fair. That's fine, ill just use the same exploits everyone else is using then. I could give a rat-ass about Burnett. I just think it's a shame everyone has to use any little exploit just to get any edge. Bunch of hogwash...

HA I could care less what you think. Just because you traded 15 picks to get a #1 qb doesn't mean you know shit. Your playoffless team with no depth the last 5 yrs is all the evidence I need. There will be 3, 4, 5 qbs that will be just as good as your guy. Give me a break about who kﻨnows how to make better moves.

what have you done the whole time i've been here? nothing. i came into a shitty team midway through 2007 with no good players whatsover from the2003 file. you hardly gone to the playoffs since i've been here. i know a shit lot more about this game in terms of building a team than you do - what did you do to get Steiner? nothing. he was drafted onto your team for you in the inaugrual file. since then Portland drafted Caro and has taken over the division for as long as i can remember. your team is headed in the wrong direction and at least i got my very own Jay Caro and the offensive weapons to surround him with. that's why you're stuck trying to move some of your old pieces that no one wants and the main pieces on the Heroes are all under 6 year veterans or less. you think the Colts have all-stars at every position? no. they have one of the top 2 QBs in the league, had a great WR, always had one of the top 10 RBs in the league, a TE for Peyton to dump passes off to and a good O-line. the rest is all filler. same goes for the Pats. they got their handful of top players, the rest are all bums and roster filler.

where has your "stacked" team got you the last 5 years? you've done shit in this league. outside of Steiner no one even knows who you have on your team cuz like many other teams that got top players from the '03 file you sat on your thumbs just trying to maintain what you got gifted rather than go out and actually have to trade and aquire players.

[SteveBsFan]

Would it be cool if i offered that TE

bonus 10 million

year 1 1.5 mil
year 2 10mil
year 3 20 mil
year 4 30 mil
year 5 40 mil


really id only have to pay 11.5 mil of that contract because the following year he would reneg for ALOT less on the other 4 years but in the case of the bidding war in free agency I could have offered him 112 mil? and only be really liable for 11.5 of it? This is bullshit. This is an outrage. This is an absolute exploit. Oh and if he didnt reneg low enough I could just cut him and again only be liable for 11.5 mil.

I tried to backload a contract or two this season, just like the Redskins did with Haynsworth. It's pretty common to do that, but I can tell you from experience it's just smoke and mirrors to scare other GM's from bidding. The game will likely reject an offer like that for a 5 year deal with a bonus of 20+ million, even if the base salary was only 2m a year.

I don't know how you go from complaining about Burnett to bringing up a contract like that though. Burnett's contract is completely opposite, he's guaranteed 7.2m a season whether he renegs later on or not.

Personally, i'd rather see more contracts like Burnett's because it'll quickly get people into cap trouble and make the league better again. Plus, a contract like that would quickly win out over a backloaded, bonus-light contract like in your example.

[Kobeck]

agree about Burnett contract. Vast majority of money will be spent. Did it affect the TE Designation money and therefore all TE pay? probably, but that will now be a small piece in getting some of excess CAP oout of system

[Hell Atlantic]

sure glad i renogotiated TE Juan McElroy to a longer term deal before this contract happened then! I WIN!

[Argot]

I agree with BOSS and Buddha That contract is bogus and another exploit of the leagues financials. 2 years must be extended to all years. offers the guy like 6 mil salary over 5 years then 35 mil bonus? Anyone find that someone makeing 900k this year is makeing 7 mil bonus this year a little I dunno bogus? absolutely bogus? Maybe I feel a little burned too since I was offering a contract to him. Still how is that a fair chance? If I want someone in free agency now I need to offer 40 mil bonus to even have a shot? a 50 rated player oh my I wonder how fkd up the bonus bidding would be on a 60 rated player if one slipped thru. This is an injustice! Extend the rule to all years!

No I believe my main point was to stop people from offering huge amounts of money just to out bid another person then never have to honor the contract. like I said I could offer somone 111.5 mil just to get them off the free agent market and only be responsible for 11.5 mil of it and just reneg it down and everyone on gods green earth would know the only reason i offered 111.5 was just to screw someone else out of getting the guy. putting the rule into place would prevent over bidding and never paying. Would force owners to pay the buying price on their free agents and yes it has been the opinion that it would HELP the free agent market a LITTLE bit.

I don't get which side of the fence you are standing on. You are mad because I am paying a guy $8M per year for the next 5 years with a contract that I can NOT renegotiate, as opposed to the contract that has minimal bonus with heavy backload that I could easily reneg on. (I thought that was your point!!) Please check your facts and think through you philosophical view before you open your mouth. I did outbid you...and I will have to honor the contract. So why are you so mad? You want him. Show him real money--yes...pay the guaranteed bonus...that other salary figure per year is crap anyway...ask player in the NFL if that's what you are comparing this league to.

...breathe...

[tarcone]

sure glad i renogotiated TE Juan McElroy to a longer term deal before this contract happened then! I WIN!

Thanks goodness you won something this season.

[BuddaKINGII]

what have you done the whole time i've been here? nothing. i came into a shitty team midway through 2007 with no good players whatsover from the2003 file. you hardly gone to the playoffs since i've been here. i know a shit lot more about this game in terms of building a team than you do - what did you do to get Steiner? nothing. he was drafted onto your team for you in the inaugrual file. since then Portland drafted Caro and has taken over the division for as long as i can remember. your team is headed in the wrong direction and at least i got my very own Jay Caro and the offensive weapons to surround him with. that's why you're stuck trying to move some of your old pieces that no one wants and the main pieces on the Heroes are all under 6 year veterans or less. you think the Colts have all-stars at every position? no. they have one of the top 2 QBs in the league, had a great WR, always had one of the top 10 RBs in the league, a TE for Peyton to dump passes off to and a good O-line. the rest is all filler. same goes for the Pats. they got their handful of top players, the rest are all bums and roster filler.

where has your "stacked" team got you the last 5 years? you've done shit in this league. outside of Steiner no one even knows who you have on your team cuz like many other teams that got top players from the '03 file you sat on your thumbs just trying to maintain what you got gifted rather than go out and actually have to trade and aquire players.

Dude do even know shit? Get a clue you don't know shit we all know you're a tool and dont know shit about football. Don't think you can get away with ignorant bull-shit.

If I would have all the top picks you've had I would of rebuilded already. It's taken 5-6 years for you to even field a competitive team. Your a joke and you know it. The highest 1st round pick I've had the last 6, 7, 8 yrs is Sato. The reason? We are always winners. You? Always losers...nothing will change. lol

What players do I have on my team from the '03 file lol...
I got Steiner through trade which was a pretty good one on my part since Steiner is still around.

I'll be rebuilding the next 3 years and still be able to make the playoffs while you remain playoffless.

You my friend just gave me motivation to kicks your ass for the next 3 years...