2023 FA1 Stage 3 Complete

[Jave]

we have an inner circle?

Yea, I was wondering that myself. I've been here since day one and never knew this. Is this something cool like "The Skulls" I was never invited to?

[DakotaGeorge]

The last 10 Imperial Bowls have had 12 different teams play out of a possible 20. A quick check with the last ten NFL Superbowls also shows a total of 12 different teams. Just saying...

Can I like this post too?

[Matt]

Here is my take on things. Changing the cap now with the league this deep would be damaging to some teams. On the other hand I have always wanted to have more interesting free agent classes. A cap reduction wouldnt change my situation one bit I will be heavily under the cap either way. I think we should leave everything as its always been unless someone comes up with a really great plan which might include a GRADUAL reduction over YEARS and YEARS not an abrupt reduction.

Tarcone is also right. The teams with the money to over spend on these guys are teams that are usually bottom feeders and heck it does bring parity. Its like a waiver rule in a fantasy sports league. teams with the bad standings get first priority every week you know? Only problem with this I guess would be the lack of a market to begin with.

if it was something that was feasible and the league was in favor of, it would be somethign that would be implemented 2-3 seasons in the future to allow for people to prepare for.

[GGill]

Money, it's a gas
Grab that cash with both hands
And make a stash
New car, caviar, four star daydream
Think I'll buy me a football team
Money get back
I'm all right Jack
Keep your hands off my stack
Money, it's a hit
Don't give me that
Do goody good bullshit
I'm in the hi-fidelity
First class traveling set
And I think I need a Lear jet

-p. FLOYD

[SteveBsFan]

I wouldn't mind if the cap was lowered a little, but I don't think it's that big of a deal right now.

I am wondering if we should take a look at the 2 year bonus rule though. Is it really helping to prevent people from offering a boatload of bonus money? If anything, I think it is hurting because the bonus money is the only guarantee, so why not allow teams to offer a $40/2 year deal but have $30+ as bonus?

With so much cap space by the bottom teams, they're going to offer insane contracts and get the guys they want anyway. At least this way they will be forced to pay for it in both seasons instead of just 1.

[JesterBlaze]

The thing about instituting a rule like this is, the people with the money in free agency will still be the big winners, and 90% of the time will still get the big name free agents. This rule won't change that, but it will equalize the playing field so to speak to give more people a reason to participate in free agency when they know they have a shot at every big name player.

What you don't like is exactly how it's designed to be. Not everyone should have a shot at the big name players... not even close. The lesser rosters should naturally have more $$$ since they lack talent. They then trade that $$ for overpriced talent in FA if they choose.

The new financials will also catch up to teams soon.


FWIW - I don't think Lawrence has ever signed anyone during FA1, only roster fillers right before the 1st pre-season game.

[DakotaGeorge]

What you don't like is exactly how it's designed to be. Not everyone should have a shot at the big name players... not even close. The lesser rosters should naturally have more $$$ since they lack talent. They then trade that $$ for overpriced talent in FA if they choose.

The new financials will also catch up to teams soon.


FWIW - I don't think Lawrence has ever signed anyone during FA1, only roster fillers right before the 1st pre-season game.

[Jave]

What you don't like is exactly how it's designed to be. Not everyone should have a shot at the big name players... not even close. The lesser rosters should naturally have more $$$ since they lack talent. They then trade that $$ for overpriced talent in FA if they choose.

The new financials will also catch up to teams soon.


FWIW - I don't think Lawrence has ever signed anyone during FA1, only roster fillers right before the 1st pre-season game.

I don't believe that for one second. That would be like Denver offering Manning a 2 year, 100 million dollar deal, then after the first year, resigning him to 17 million a year. That's just not plausible nor realistic.

[BuddaKINGII]

Just list the top 25 free agents and if these players want multiple years in their contract then this must be met. You still can offer 50 mil bonuses but this would make owners pay and think about it. Especially those who keep up with their financials.

[BuddaKINGII]

What you don't like is exactly how it's designed to be. Not everyone should have a shot at the big name players... not even close. The lesser rosters should naturally have more $$$ since they lack talent. They then trade that $$ for overpriced talent in FA if they choose.

The new financials will also catch up to teams soon.


FWIW - I don't think Lawrence has ever signed anyone during FA1, only roster fillers right before the 1st pre-season game.

True, the new financials should kick in. But for how long? I thought the issue with having to deal with the cap would come sooner. 3-5 years it looks like now...(yoda voice)

[Kobeck]

Well, Hell hurry up and get your roster in order. Hahaha..How fucking long does it take. Really. Jave will be battling with me and La and Fresno (those guys names I forgot lol) while you're still in the basement for the next 3 years. Damn guy you must like it.

Kobeck from Fresno reporting to battle!

[Kobeck]

The thing about instituting a rule like this is, the people with the money in free agency will still be the big winners, and 90% of the time will still get the big name free agents. This rule won't change that, but it will equalize the playing field so to speak to give more people a reason to participate in free agency when they know they have a shot at every big name player.

Owners like myself stopped participating in free agency just for this reason. If I had say, 20 million to spend in FA, I knew I had no shot at 80% of the players so I pretty much ignored the entire stage. I see no reason why this rule wouldn't improve the game and league.

I think the main problem isnt that Javes idea is bad but that it is just one more thing for the commissioners to monitor. I think the owners for the most part will look at the other contracts, if they lost out on a UFA they really wanted, and report the ones in violation of the 2 year contract rule. But expecting the commissioners to check every contract given league wide is asking a lot from a 'leisure' activity.

[JesterBlaze]

I don't believe that for one second. That would be like Denver offering Manning a 2 year, 100 million dollar deal, then after the first year, resigning him to 17 million a year. That's just not plausible nor realistic.

Because Denver would never have $100M to spare... That's just not plausible nor realistic... because the NFL replaces the bottom teams each year so they can't get into the long term trouble that some teams in the IFL are in... The NFL has much more parity because everyone from the top down needs to produce to keep their jobs. The IFL is for fun so I'm not suggesting we kick out the bottom 3 each season but there is a cumulative effect when less than 32 teams use ALL their available resources each season.

True, the new financials should kick in. But for how long? I thought the issue with having to deal with the cap would come sooner. 3-5 years it looks like now...(yoda voice)

I've been losing about 2 good players every 3 seasons to salary cap reasons for a little while now. And this is while trading back some high draft picks to avoid their price tag. My latest franchise tag, OLB Neal Kemp, has a $9M franchise tag and will only drop that to $7M as part of a huge long term contract. He might be the next Phantom to go.

I expect this season that other teams will start to feel the squeeze.

[Kobeck]

Ever since the Warthogs made the decision that Schwartz was going to get Fresno into the POs the CAP has been an issue.


you should see what he is wanting now!

[Matt]

The reality is that most nfl teams don't spend near the cap.