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[sovstar]

Har, Aqu, Stl, and IWC

!!!!!

[MrBigglesworth]

I'm up for the challenge

NC North -

Pretty straightforward, if Madison beats Pittsburgh they win the North.

Madison is currently 7-4 in common games, Pittsburgh is 7-4 as well. Therefore if both teams have identical records at the end with a Pittsburgh win, common games will be the same at either 7-5 or 8-4 so they won't matter. I'll fall to strength of victory. The only difference between the two teams for victories are:

Pittsburgh beat Vancouver, Lansing, Murfreesboro*, Tulsa, Little Rock (31-38-1)

Madison beat Newark, Dakota, Houston*, Texas, Columbia (37-31-2)

If both teams win next week, Murf and Houston come off the lists since both teams will have beaten them. The records would be 25-30-1 for Pitt and 26-28-2 for Madison, or damn near even. The final records of the teams above would determine who wins. If both teams lose this week, Madison would be the favorite to win the tiebreaker barring a collapse by their list.

If we both lose this week, and we win in week 17, then we would be the favorite to win the tiebreaker because we would have the benefit of beating Houston (11+ wins) against Madison beating Murfreesboro (6+ wins). If we both win and Pittsburgh wins week 17, then I would have to pick up two wins in the strength of victory.

[hawkster]

yeah, I got you two backwards on that one. I'll edit for accuracy.

[Warhammer]

1) ANC is currently the #1 seed by virtue of common opponents against Houston.

Anchorage and Houston don't have enough common opponents to use it as a tiebreaker. There has to be four.

Oddly enough, provided that there are only two teams in the tiebreaker, there are always going to be at least four common opponents if the teams are in the same conference.

[Warhammer]

So basically what i'm looking at is either the #2 seed or #5 seed? Is there any way I could get the 1, 3 or 6 seeds?

edit: any way I could get into the 1 seed via tiebreakers with anyone. Obviously winning out and NFK, ANC losing would do it

For you to get the number one seed, you need to win both games and ANC and NFK need to lose at least one game each. That is the easiest way.

If you tie with ANC, you lose the common opponent tiebreaker 4-1 v 3-2.

If you tie with NFK, you would win (provided you beat MUR) based upon conference record. Otherwise it goes to strength of victory.

So it is possible for you to get the #3 seed by NFK winning both games, and then you lose one, ANC loses one, and STL doesn't win the division by winning two games.

The #6 seed is impossible for you to get because no WC hopeful can tie your record.

[Warhammer]

I'm up for the challenge

NC North -

Pretty straightforward, if Madison beats Pittsburgh they win the North.

Madison is currently 7-4 in common games, Pittsburgh is 7-4 as well. Therefore if both teams have identical records at the end with a Pittsburgh win, common games will be the same at either 7-5 or 8-4 so they won't matter. I'll fall to strength of victory. The only difference between the two teams for victories are:

Pittsburgh beat Vancouver, Lansing, Murfreesboro*, Tulsa, Little Rock (31-38-1)

Madison beat Newark, Dakota, Houston*, Texas, Columbia (37-31-2)

If both teams win next week, Murf and Houston come off the lists since both teams will have beaten them. The records would be 25-30-1 for Pitt and 26-28-2 for Madison, or damn near even. The final records of the teams above would determine who wins. If both teams lose this week, Madison would be the favorite to win the tiebreaker barring a collapse by their list.

If we both lose this week, and we win in week 17, then we would be the favorite to win the tiebreaker because we would have the benefit of beating Houston (11+ wins) against Madison beating Murfreesboro (6+ wins). If we both win and Pittsburgh wins week 17, then I would have to pick up two wins in the strength of victory.

I wouldn't get into the strength of victory yet, because TOO many scenarios can play out at this point.

[Warhammer]

My brain just started leaking out my nose.

Shit, how do you think I feel

Yeah, the NC isn't hard as far as who is going to get in, the difficult part there is the seeding.

[SteveBsFan]

Thanks Warhammer!

I'm still upset you beat me though :evil:

[MrBigglesworth]

I'm up for the challenge

NC North -

Pretty straightforward, if Madison beats Pittsburgh they win the North.

Madison is currently 7-4 in common games, Pittsburgh is 7-4 as well. Therefore if both teams have identical records at the end with a Pittsburgh win, common games will be the same at either 7-5 or 8-4 so they won't matter. I'll fall to strength of victory. The only difference between the two teams for victories are:

Pittsburgh beat Vancouver, Lansing, Murfreesboro*, Tulsa, Little Rock (31-38-1)

Madison beat Newark, Dakota, Houston*, Texas, Columbia (37-31-2)

If both teams win next week, Murf and Houston come off the lists since both teams will have beaten them. The records would be 25-30-1 for Pitt and 26-28-2 for Madison, or damn near even. The final records of the teams above would determine who wins. If both teams lose this week, Madison would be the favorite to win the tiebreaker barring a collapse by their list.

If we both lose this week, and we win in week 17, then we would be the favorite to win the tiebreaker because we would have the benefit of beating Houston (11+ wins) against Madison beating Murfreesboro (6+ wins). If we both win and Pittsburgh wins week 17, then I would have to pick up two wins in the strength of victory.

I wouldn't get into the strength of victory yet, because TOO many scenarios can play out at this point.

Actually, if there is a tiebreaker needed between Pit/Mad it is guaranteed to go down to strength of victory. The only two ways that we tie are that we both win next week and Pit wins week 17, or we both lose this week and Pit wins week 17, an in both cases division, conf, and common games will be tied.