Free Agency Transactions/Discussion

[MrBigglesworth]

Suicane, that weasel, signed Kinder, whom Steve put on the block. If I had noticed he was on the block before he was released I surely would've offered a 7th for a punt returning playmaker like that.

I probably was offering him too much over 3 years though, so maybe it's a blessing in disguise.

I was looking at him, but I have too many marginal receivers on my roster to give a roster spot to a guy that can just return punts.

[Hell Atlantic]

i would have got Kinder if i wanted him, but i didn't think his punt return stats matched his punt return ratings. his stats weren't all that wonderful. 1 PR TD last year, i can get that from anybody. still, seeing that 100 rating for PR is sexy, just nothing-i'd-give-up-a-lot-for sexy.

[SteveBsFan]

i would have got Kinder if i wanted him, but i didn't think his punt return stats matched his punt return ratings. his stats weren't all that wonderful. 1 PR TD last year, i can get that from anybody. still, seeing that 100 rating for PR is sexy, just nothing-i'd-give-up-a-lot-for sexy.

I agree, that's why I didn't work harder to keep him. His ratings are high, but his numbers haven't been impressive.

[Hell Atlantic]

I agree, that's why I didn't work harder to keep him. His ratings are high, but his numbers haven't been impressive.

exactly. when i see 100 PR rating, i'm expecting at least 4, 5 or more PR tds. anyone can get lucky and get a PR td. for 100 rating i want stats like that PR from the Chiefs who had like 10 PR TDs LOL.

[sovstar]

*wonders how bad the rest of Houston's special team players are and the effect they could have on punt returns*

[SteveBsFan]

*wonders how bad the rest of Houston's special team players are and the effect they could have on punt returns*

Is there any real way to tell who's on your ST aside from the 2 gunners you put in?

I had Donnalley and Rinker as my gunners mid season last year, and towards the end I had to put Schofield and Rinker for some reason (injuries probably).

I tried to avoid starters for that position, but Donnalley and Rinker both have good ST skills.

[Hell Atlantic]

well, i think (in my book) your overall ST rating depends on how many guys you got that are rated well for special teams. i would expect overall better ST numbers from a team that has a handful of guys rated 80+ in ST (like i do) as opposed to a team that only has, say, Kinder as their lone ST brightspot.

[sovstar]

*wonders how bad the rest of Houston's special team players are and the effect they could have on punt returns*

Is there any real way to tell who's on your ST aside from the 2 gunners you put in?

I had Donnalley and Rinker as my gunners mid season last year, and towards the end I had to put Schofield and Rinker for some reason (injuries probably).

I tried to avoid starters for that position, but Donnalley and Rinker both have good ST skills.

Not really. I just make sure to put some kind of emphasis on special teams, especially for backups.

I just wanted to make a point that there are more factors to punt returning.

[SteveBsFan]

Hmm good point. I know i've seen Timmerman out there making tackles during returns, so it probably does have to do with more than just your gunners

[Hell Atlantic]

I just wanted to make a point that there are more factors to punt returning.

but at the same token, you would think having a 100 rating in PR would somehow offset an overall weak ST. i mean, 100 rating - essentially this guy is supposed to be one of the best, if not the best, punt returners in the league. i would think your opinion works the other way around - having an overall good ST team will get you otherwise good PR/KR numbers from guys who aren't rated exceptionally well in that category.

[sovstar]

Does anyone else think this thread is getting a little cluttered?

[Cringer]

Does anyone else think this thread is getting a little cluttered?

It's pretty long. :?

[Cringer]

And I just want to say C Brian Gutierrez is a stubborn bitch. Usually guys will listen to cheap offers, especially when no one else if offering anything. This guy has just flat out rejected me twice now.

[Kobeck]

speaking of the rich getting richer how many Good CBs does Cleveland need? lol

didn't so much mind getting beat out for that CB, but when I checked out Clevelands roster he will be like 5th on the depth chart and would have been a starter for the Mules. - Did that come off as whinney as I intended?

[MrBigglesworth]

speaking of the rich getting richer how many Good CBs does Cleveland need? lol

didn't so much mind getting beat out for that CB, but when I checked out Clevelands roster he will be like 5th on the depth chart and would have been a starter for the Mules. - Did that come off as whinney as I intended?

When you're in the same division as Iowa City, you have to have five good CB's to cover all those WR's they throw at you.