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Gently grab the balls....2003,2004,2007,2008,2010,2013,2024,2025,2031,2037, 2038 and 2039 NC North Division Champions, 2012 and 2017 Wild Card
2004 Imperial Football League Champions
2008 NC Champions
Demons Ring of Honor-QB Will Irby (HOF), CB Neal "The Real Deal" Ferguson, RB Charles Bell, K Paul Pickett, FS Robert Poole, RG Leonard Becker, TE Brenden Fields, C Seth Stender, LB Adam Kollars (HOF), LB Louis McCarthy (HOF), C James Robinson (HOF), RB Carlton Dabrowa (HOF)
Demons Retired Numbers- #11 (QB Will Irby-HOF), #55 (C James Robinson-HOF), #20 (RB Carlton Dabrowa-HOF), #56 (LB Louis McCarthy-HOF), #57 (LB Adam Kollars-HOF)
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Originally posted by Jave View PostOn another note, Farrell is not worth a 1st and 2nd, which would lead me to believe this may be an agreement prior to this file. Which in effect, WOULD break the rules.
Says the guy who got 3 2nds 1 1st and a 3rd for his WR. In fairness he is a lot better than Farrell but I in NO way think that our deal is lopsided and your opinion on how much a player is worth shouldnt be the status quo for the league.
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Originally posted by BOSS View PostSupply and demand, WR's are the hottest commodity in this league. He is every bit worth it to be honest. The only position worth it in my opinion in the league for a 50 something rated player.
Agreed. Supply and demand. Also the 2 GMs trading should decide what their players are worth. not the peanut gallery.
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Find one owner who didn't think that trade was legitimate. Aside from BOSS.Originally posted by DakotaGeorge View PostSays the guy who got 3 2nds 1 1st and a 3rd for his WR. In fairness he is a lot better than Farrell but I in NO way think that our deal is lopsided and your opinion on how much a player is worth shouldnt be the status quo for the league.
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The trade fairness isn't even in question. Its the logistics on how it came about to happening. Was it collusion?
Get with the program here...2003,2004,2007,2008,2010,2013,2024,2025,2031,2037, 2038 and 2039 NC North Division Champions, 2012 and 2017 Wild Card
2004 Imperial Football League Champions
2008 NC Champions
Demons Ring of Honor-QB Will Irby (HOF), CB Neal "The Real Deal" Ferguson, RB Charles Bell, K Paul Pickett, FS Robert Poole, RG Leonard Becker, TE Brenden Fields, C Seth Stender, LB Adam Kollars (HOF), LB Louis McCarthy (HOF), C James Robinson (HOF), RB Carlton Dabrowa (HOF)
Demons Retired Numbers- #11 (QB Will Irby-HOF), #55 (C James Robinson-HOF), #20 (RB Carlton Dabrowa-HOF), #56 (LB Louis McCarthy-HOF), #57 (LB Adam Kollars-HOF)
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No fucking shit genius. Don't play with me, I will bury you.Originally posted by BOSS View PostThe trade fairness isn't even in question. Its the logistics on how it came about to happening. Was it collusion?
Get with the program here...
The issue here is if this was agreed upon prior to this file. Considering the value of the receiver it may have been. I will support whatever Matt decides. Everyone should play by the rules.
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I'll be your huckleberry...2003,2004,2007,2008,2010,2013,2024,2025,2031,2037, 2038 and 2039 NC North Division Champions, 2012 and 2017 Wild Card
2004 Imperial Football League Champions
2008 NC Champions
Demons Ring of Honor-QB Will Irby (HOF), CB Neal "The Real Deal" Ferguson, RB Charles Bell, K Paul Pickett, FS Robert Poole, RG Leonard Becker, TE Brenden Fields, C Seth Stender, LB Adam Kollars (HOF), LB Louis McCarthy (HOF), C James Robinson (HOF), RB Carlton Dabrowa (HOF)
Demons Retired Numbers- #11 (QB Will Irby-HOF), #55 (C James Robinson-HOF), #20 (RB Carlton Dabrowa-HOF), #56 (LB Louis McCarthy-HOF), #57 (LB Adam Kollars-HOF)
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That receiver is easily worth a 1st and a 2nd.Originally posted by Jave View PostNo fucking shit genius. Don't play with me, I will bury you.
The issue here is if this was agreed upon prior to this file. Considering the value of the receiver it may have been. I will support whatever Matt decides. Everyone should play by the rules.
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You guys colluded to circumvent the rules of the league, plain and simple. You even asked Matt if it would be ok and he said no, but you went and did it anyway. To sit here and act shocked like you don't know what you did is the height of arrogant dickishness. That's par for the course with you DG but I kind of expected more from you Tarcone. But ya know what, fuck it, you win. Neither Matt nor I have the time to fuck around with you guys and deal with dumb shit like this, even if this trade wasn't put through you'd still figure something else out and just be a further annoyance. So you get what you wanted but I want everyone in the league to know that you cheated and you did it on purpose and you did it even after being told it was cheating. That's cool, maybe nobody cares, but I don't want for one minute, anyone to think that this was anything less than pre planned circumvention of the league rules, because that's exactly what it was.I luv British womenz.
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Originally posted by Suicane View PostYou guys colluded to circumvent the rules of the league, plain and simple. You even asked Matt if it would be ok and he said no, but you went and did it anyway. To sit here and act shocked like you don't know what you did is the height of arrogant dickishness. That's par for the course with you DG but I kind of expected more from you Tarcone. But ya know what, fuck it, you win. Neither Matt nor I have the time to fuck around with you guys and deal with dumb shit like this, even if this trade wasn't put through you'd still figure something else out and just be a further annoyance. So you get what you wanted but I want everyone in the league to know that you cheated and you did it on purpose and you did it even after being told it was cheating. That's cool, maybe nobody cares, but I don't want for one minute, anyone to think that this was anything less than pre planned circumvention of the league rules, because that's exactly what it was.
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Even if it was a part 2 trade. There is no rules against 2 part trades specifically. rule 3d only comes into play if it a backend lopsided deal. Which everyone and their grandmother agreed that it wasnt unfair that it was pretty fair value. Rule 3c was never broken because there was NEVER a trade that included picks outside the game. So no matter what you say you cant even quote a rule in our rule book that was violated. Matter of fact the trade was so fair that if nothing had been mentioned to matt previously about doing something like that there wouldnt have even been an investigation or a big bitch fit. but hey Sui good job alienating the Veteran GMs you do have in the league.
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Sorry but this wasnt a violation of league rules. a backended lopsided trade woulda been if Tarcone traded me a 1st rounder for a 28 rated player I was going to cut. THAT woulda been cheating. For you even to toss around the word Cheaters and cheating with veteran guys who have stuck with your league for years IRL is a gross statement by you.
Not one rule you can quote from our rule book that was violated. Thats all. 3c was never violated because there was no trades that involved picks outside the game... which btw is in place so you guys wouldnt have to keep track or police out of game draft picks in trades. Which didnt come in to play. rule 3d says that to be scrutinized or vetoed a trade would have to be a backend Lopsided deal to circumvent rule 3c. Which there was no backend lopsided deal.
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So I think without any rule in the rule book violated it is offensive for you to call Tarcone and I cheaters and said we were cheating and we knew we were cheating. I also think it is offensive that you went through all our PMs too.Last edited by DakotaGeorge; 10-27-2012, 10:35 AM.
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