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  • #16
    My person opinion that franchising a player and then trading him sounds dubious...again just my opinion. The purpose of franchising is to get a lower contract from a player to help keep that particular franchise from having to be split up over one great player. To trade him makes the contract really unfair to the player. Otherwise he could have applied for free agency and got a better contract from another team. Perhaps the Player's Association should look into this.

    Again...just my opinion. I would like to see the rules state that if you franchise a player he must remain on your roster for the entire year.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Argot
      My person opinion that franchising a player and then trading him sounds dubious...again just my opinion. The purpose of franchising is to get a lower contract from a player to help keep that particular franchise from having to be split up over one great player. To trade him makes the contract really unfair to the player. Otherwise he could have applied for free agency and got a better contract from another team. Perhaps the Player's Association should look into this.

      Again...just my opinion. I would like to see the rules state that if you franchise a player he must remain on your roster for the entire year.
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      • #18
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Argot
          I would like to see the rules state that if you franchise a player he must remain on your roster for the entire year.
          I would have no problem with this. Forces yet another decision and ain't that the fun part.

          On the other hand if you franchise a guy with the intention of trading or cutting but not playing that could be a big chunk of change you have to keep on your CAP till you dump him. So there is some plusses and minuses involved with keeping it the way it is.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kobeck
            Originally posted by Argot
            I would like to see the rules state that if you franchise a player he must remain on your roster for the entire year.
            I would have no problem with this. Forces yet another decision and ain't that the fun part.

            On the other hand if you franchise a guy with the intention of trading or cutting but not playing that could be a big chunk of change you have to keep on your CAP till you dump him. So there is some plusses and minuses involved with keeping it the way it is.
            this is ludacris. If it can happen in the NFL, it should be allowed in the Imperial League.
            If someone wants to trade their franchise guy, then so be it. He's essentially under contract to your team like every other player
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            LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
            TE THOMAS MACOMBER
            LT IRWIN KAO
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            RB ALAN CRESPO
            G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
            WR WALTER WALKER
            G AMOS BAILEY
            QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
            RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
            WR JOSE HOOVER
            K BUTCH SCHULZ
            LB MACK EDWARDS
            DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
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            • #21
              for the record I'm fine with that also :lol:
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              • #22
                I have to agree with Matt... If it is the NFL it should be (in some form) in the game.. That is what this game is suppose to simulate right

                But I mean think about it. Your offering a guy top money. When I look at someone like Rich. He wanted 4.5 Mil this year. Why pay 4.5 when I can get him for 2Mil by tagging him. Some technically it can be considered good cap management ...

                And if you want to trade him, you are securing the player for future considerations...

                JMO

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                • #23
                  First off, let me say that if the NFL allows it then...ok...I'm not looking to rock the boat...

                  It just sounds wrong to me from a player's point of view and I'm actually very surprised that the Player's association allows it.

                  Think about it, a player has the right to become a Free Agent and ask market price. If a player tags him, there's a sense of...ok...I'll take one for the team because I'm important to them (as much as I hate it). Now that team turns around and trades them (basically saying...um...you're not THAT important to us.) Instead of being able to test the market the player is effectively shafted. Some other team may have been willing to pay market price, as many times market price is above franchise salary. Otherwise we wouldn't tag anyone. We let them go to free agency and take our chances on re-signing him.

                  Am I making sense here?

                  And that's what I have to say about that.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Argot
                    First off, let me say that if the NFL allows it then...ok...I'm not looking to rock the boat...

                    It just sounds wrong to me from a player's point of view and I'm actually very surprised that the Player's association allows it.

                    Think about it, a player has the right to become a Free Agent and ask market price. If a player tags him, there's a sense of...ok...I'll take one for the team because I'm important to them (as much as I hate it). Now that team turns around and trades them (basically saying...um...you're not THAT important to us.) Instead of being able to test the market the player is effectively shafted. Some other team may have been willing to pay market price, as many times market price is above franchise salary. Otherwise we wouldn't tag anyone. We let them go to free agency and take our chances on re-signing him.

                    Am I making sense here?

                    And that's what I have to say about that.
                    The Bills franchised Peerless Price and then traded him to Atlanta for a 1st rnd pick. The Bills had no intention of keeping Price after they franchised him.
                    The Raiders franchised Woodson last year, with the intent to trade him.

                    I think this happens a lot more than you realize.
                    NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
                    DE JUSTIN JONES
                    LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
                    TE THOMAS MACOMBER
                    LT IRWIN KAO
                    WR ANDREW ROBEY
                    SS GREGORY BOYD
                    RB ALAN CRESPO
                    G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
                    WR WALTER WALKER
                    G AMOS BAILEY
                    QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
                    RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
                    WR JOSE HOOVER
                    K BUTCH SCHULZ
                    LB MACK EDWARDS
                    DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
                    WR JESSE LUCAS
                    C NORMAN ENRIGHT
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                    • #25
                      well its not like franxhised players are getting minimum or anything. They make the average of the top 5 in the league at their position. I think the Colts James made $6m last season as a franchise RB.

                      just talking math here - the only people who could complain $$$ wise about being franchised would be the top or second highest paid player in the league everyone else should get a raise by being franchised. Of course there could be cases where the top 4 all make close to the same so that the all 4 of the top players would see a $ decline of some sort but even then that would leave everyone else in the league at that position getting a $ increase.

                      In summation I do not weep for franchised players
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by "Matt
                        The Bills franchised Peerless Price and then traded him to Atlanta for a 1st rnd pick. The Bills had no intention of keeping Price after they franchised him.
                        The Raiders franchised Woodson last year, with the intent to trade him.

                        I think this happens a lot more than you realize.
                        See John Abraham of the Jets this year
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                        • #27
                          ok...ok...I surrender...I give up....

                          call off the dogs...I repent in my stupidity

                          Just reminds me to think twice before I hit the submit contract button for a player who wants more than the top 5 in the 3rd year of his contract.
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                          • #28
                            :lol: :lol: :lol:
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