2012 Draft - First Round Discussion

[Pirates]

My list was set as:

1. Nicky Doyle
2. Wade Boyd(based on need rather then pure talent)
3. Barry Mendenhall
4. Jay Alcott (going to be a stud)
5. Michael Cibella

Based on what I see, Ellis is just not a top 10 pick. But again, I think my scout may be misrepresenting him.

Actually that is pretty close to how my scout had him. We will see if after training camp he corrects, but I would never have taken him. I am too wowed by bars anyways.

[tarcone]

Got my FS. He is an interception machine. Welcome to Tulsa Earnest Porter

[eckman]

Did anybody interview my QB pick?(or didn't anybody bother) Not outstanding bars but pretty good combine and our scout had him as underrated. I am expecting at least high 60's. He should be the best qb the clawz franchise has ever had.

I think Jave did a great job getting the corners. His only other option was take the cb at 2 and Mendenhall at 4. Either way great draft for oakland.

If FB Tyrell Smith can carry the load at rb he could be a very good pick. I have seen on occasion a FB play pretty good at RB. Still a gamble but at worst maybe the best FB in the league.

I just hope you guys leave some talent on the board because I don't pick again until 3.24.

[Jave]

Did anybody interview my QB pick?(or didn't anybody bother) Not outstanding bars but pretty good combine and our scout had him as underrated. I am expecting at least high 60's. He should be the best qb the clawz franchise has ever had.

I think Jave did a great job getting the corners. His only other option was take the cb at 2 and Mendenhall at 4. Either way great draft for oakland.

If FB Tyrell Smith can carry the load at rb he could be a very good pick. I have seen on occasion a FB play pretty good at RB. Still a gamble but at worst maybe the best FB in the league.

I just hope you guys leave some talent on the board because I don't pick again until 3.24.

The QB was a great pick, and my scout has him as underrated so he could really take off.

[Hell Atlantic]

i'm loving my pick. i got a top 10 player to slip to #12 overall at a definite need position for me.

[eckman]

i'm loving my pick. i got a top 10 player to slip to #12 overall at a definite need position for me.

Yep you have been trying to snag a good LT for years.

[Jave]

i'm loving my pick. i got a top 10 player to slip to #12 overall at a definite need position for me.

That was a great pick. I nearly picked him up at the 4 spot, but my current LT is going to be solid. Not great, but solid. I will just wait the 5 years when it's time to resign him cause I know you will be all pissed he wants to get paid top LT $ and you will tell him to fuck himself so I will go after him in FA.

[Hell Atlantic]

he's a Hero for life, if he pans out.

[iceman99]

Alcott was my #1 choice. But the lack of a RB on my roster pushed me toward the back. Just hope it works out for us

[Jave]

he's a Hero for life, if he pans out.

Pans out? You mean plays for minimum salary his entire career?

[Hell Atlantic]

Heroes don't overpay for stars on the decline, or guys with only 2-3 years left of peak performance. for guys like Mullin and Alcott and Chapman (my RB), we'll open up the vaults.

[Suicane]

I gotta duck out for a few hours so todays file will be delayed a bit. I'll update the draft though when I do it.

[hawkster]

As Skydog put it once, you have 4 things to go off for a rookie:
Scout grade, Interview, Combine, and Bars.

If all but the bars indicate a guy is a stud, then he's most likely a stud.

I had a Very Underrated interview with Ellis and his combine is ridiculous. The scouts have him as the top rated OT. I decided to take my chances that his bars will blow up and I'm very confident they will. We'll see in 3-4 seasons or sooner if I'm wrong or right.

[TimG]

As Skydog put it once, you have 4 things to go off for a rookie:
Scout grade, Interview, Combine, and Bars.

If all but the bars indicate a guy is a stud, then he's most likely a stud.

I had a Very Underrated interview with Ellis and his combine is ridiculous. The scouts have him as the top rated OT. I decided to take my chances that his bars will blow up and I'm very confident they will. We'll see in 3-4 seasons or sooner if I'm wrong or right.

I think your going to see a 90% development after 10 games or so. Did you see my T Roaf? Almost exact rating on the combines including bars. You've got a great player in the making. Could be wrong but I dont think so.

[Jave]

As Skydog put it once, you have 4 things to go off for a rookie:
Scout grade, Interview, Combine, and Bars.

If all but the bars indicate a guy is a stud, then he's most likely a stud.

I had a Very Underrated interview with Ellis and his combine is ridiculous. The scouts have him as the top rated OT. I decided to take my chances that his bars will blow up and I'm very confident they will. We'll see in 3-4 seasons or sooner if I'm wrong or right.

I'm not dogging your pick bro but don't the bars worry you at all? They are barley a forth over what a 4th round pick would be. Now in the second round he may be worth the flier but a top 10 pick is risky.
Alcott just seems the safer pick.