2010 Draft Discussion (File update thru 5.28)

[sovstar]

I just imagine Suicane laughing at me in the chat room. No time for me to chat though, I have to work on my prospect video!

[Coder]

Hmmm, well that's a pretty decent sample size I guess. Did anyone else happen to interview Fields by chance? My logic on picking him went like this:

1) Great combine
2) Deemed underrated after an interview, which I thought meant that 3) he should be better than his bureau score indicates.

I didn't put much stock into his bars, except for what individual things he might excel at.

I interviewed him and got "Hard to read". He had absolutely awesome combine-results though.. I think he'll do fine to be honest.

[Coder]

I just imagine Suicane laughing at me in the chat room. No time for me to chat though, I have to work on my prospect video!

Have you got IFL rosters in Madden yet? Or are you using NCAA?

[sovstar]

I don't think ratings mean much of anything until after a few seasons, and even then I'm not sure that the masking ever really comes off. I thought it was somewhat like that in 2k4, but I know a lot of people even here in this league disagreed with me. I've done some studies, and I think it is much more pronounced though in 2k7.

How many really disagreed? Maybe in the way they play I guess. I've always thought there was a degree of masking.

[sovstar]

I just imagine Suicane laughing at me in the chat room. No time for me to chat though, I have to work on my prospect video!

Have you got IFL rosters in Madden yet? Or are you using NCAA?

NCAA. I don't know that we'll ever get a new set of IFL rosters unless this thing gstelmack is doing is worthwhile.

Edit: I'm using Madden '06 with NCAA mods.

[Kozure]

Hmmm, well that's a pretty decent sample size I guess. Did anyone else happen to interview Fields by chance? My logic on picking him went like this:

1) Great combine
2) Deemed underrated after an interview, which I thought meant that 3) he should be better than his bureau score indicates.

I didn't put much stock into his bars, except for what individual things he might excel at.

Skydog said recently over in the USFL that he's seen players who's basic ratings don't look good, (like Fields), but had good combine numbers, and was "very underrated" by his scout after an interview, and he saw a 30 rated player become a 50 rated player over the course of several seasons. But that was the most he's ever saw. He did say he has a player that may put that 20 point increase to shame.

But Jeff, you can always take solace in the fact that Fields rating can only go up, right?

[Kozure]

I don't think ratings mean much of anything until after a few seasons, and even then I'm not sure that the masking ever really comes off. I thought it was somewhat like that in 2k4, but I know a lot of people even here in this league disagreed with me. I've done some studies, and I think it is much more pronounced though in 2k7.

How many really disagreed? Maybe in the way they play I guess. I've always thought there was a degree of masking.

Yes, FOF2004 was much more straight forward in its ratings. What you saw with a player was what you got. Now, there is heavy masking to players ratings, especially with rookies. Soooo, that could mean that random booms and busts are still present, but the masking doesn't allow them to show up for several seasons down the road. And it only shows increases and decreases in small doses.

[sjshaw]

The ratings you see right now mean absolutely nothing. You'll see the real numbers after TC, and even then, you won't know anything for sure until a few seasons have passed and the masking comes off.

[MrBigglesworth]

I don't think ratings mean much of anything until after a few seasons, and even then I'm not sure that the masking ever really comes off. I thought it was somewhat like that in 2k4, but I know a lot of people even here in this league disagreed with me. I've done some studies, and I think it is much more pronounced though in 2k7.

How many really disagreed? Maybe in the way they play I guess. I've always thought there was a degree of masking.

There was a thread not too long ago where a couple posters said I was crazy for looking at stats and not caring as much about overall ratings.

[sovstar]

I don't think ratings mean much of anything until after a few seasons, and even then I'm not sure that the masking ever really comes off. I thought it was somewhat like that in 2k4, but I know a lot of people even here in this league disagreed with me. I've done some studies, and I think it is much more pronounced though in 2k7.

How many really disagreed? Maybe in the way they play I guess. I've always thought there was a degree of masking.

There was a thread not too long ago where a couple posters said I was crazy for looking at stats and not caring as much about overall ratings.

Jester probably disagreed. I only make fun of tight ends who score a lot of touchdowns ...

[JesterBlaze]

Jester probably disagreed. I only make fun of tight ends who score a lot of touchdowns ...

I care about attributes but not a players OVR. Stats are something to take into consideration but they're dependent on a great many things and are unavailable for incoming rookies so I assume the bars reflect something, even if a bad reflection.

My trade for Bucky Beaver is an example of past stats and low OVR motivating me to make a move. A move deemed expensive by some.

[Suicane]

Tim Austin says "Hi, i'm a stud".

[Argot]

When I took the Blackhawks to the championship in WAFL, I had the worst ratings of any secondary in the league--yet we probably led the league in INT's and had excellent success against the pass.

I am thinking that overall ratings mean much less in 2007.

[Argot]

Ha! Left here at 4 PM. Went to see Ratatouille which is a 2 hour movie + previews. Very good children's movie. When we got home around 7:30ish, I expected that at least 2 of my picks would have been made. I guess I could make them live now... :shock:

[sovstar]

Ha! Left here at 4 PM. Went to see Ratatouille which is a 2 hour movie + previews. Very good children's movie. When we got home around 7:30ish, I expected that at least 2 of my picks would have been made. I guess I could make them live now... :shock:

You didn't see who was on the clock?