New constitution needs blessing

[P. Diddy]

conditional in what sense? for draft day ("if this person is taken by the time i pick i'll trade you this pick") or someone other sense?

I just added one example up above. Frankly, I think "conditional" opens up a huge can of worms and have never really been found of any sort of them.

Yeah. It's really not worth it in FOF.

[Argot]

Question: Has the global settings for injury always been 10% above the recommended default? If so, can I ask if this is necessary. I realize "stuff" happens, but there seems and inordinate amount of injuries lately. And its not that I'm not for having to reshuffle, but I've seen some "franchise" type players lose drastic ratings and are never the same. JMO.

[sovstar]

Question: Has the global settings for injury always been 10% above the recommended default? If so, can I ask if this is necessary. I realize "stuff" happens, but there seems and inordinate amount of injuries lately. And its not that I'm not for having to reshuffle, but I've seen some "franchise" type players lose drastic ratings and are never the same. JMO.

I worded it that way in case the setting range changes. Right now it's 0-200, the default is 100, and we've always used 110 in the IFL.

Jim and other hardcore players have maintained that a setting of 200 still doesn't cause a realistic number of injuries.

A little sidenote: As of yesterday, the Vikings had 4 good players on IR.

[Warhammer]

I would vote for upping the injuries if anything.

My theory on injuries based upon experience in the IFL and IHOF is this:

The higher the injury setting, the more injuries you get. However, the additional injuries at the higher settings are typically minor in nature. The severe injuries you are going to get regardless of the injury setting. The IHOF has the injury setting at 150 - 175 and there seems to be a lot more minor injuries over there. Things of the 3-4 week range. As far as CEIs and severe injuries, I have had just as many, if not more of those type of injuries here.

So basically if you are getting one CEI a year, with higher injuries you would get:

1 CEI
2-3 - 4-5 week injuries
4-6 - 1-3 week injuries


Another item that plays a large roll in injuries is turf condition. Several teams have seen their turf condition go down in recent years, they need to fix their field and their injury problems should go away.

[Matt]

my issue with conditional picks is that guys trade picks that they don't even have, and quite often. How are the commish's going to have time to regulate these types of transactions.

[sovstar]

my issue with conditional picks is that guys trade picks that they don't even have, and quite often.

That is a gooood point.

[Warhammer]

The constitution looks good.

I would just like to comment that contracts are pretty solid right now. Even some of the more outrageous contracts I've seen in IHOF (we've never had any problems with them here), would shoot the team in the foot if the player got injured, cut, etc.

[Suicane]

my issue with conditional picks is that guys trade picks that they don't even have, and quite often. How are the commish's going to have time to regulate these types of transactions.

That was my view of it. I loathe the idea of having to say to someone "oops, you traded a pick that was a conditional part of another trade and now you dont have it" and then having to figure out what to do. It's easy to say that each person can keep track of it, but people forget stuff, I forget stuff all the time.

[MrBigglesworth]

Another item that plays a large roll in injuries is turf condition. Several teams have seen their turf condition go down in recent years, they need to fix their field and their injury problems should go away.

It takes three seasons at least to get new turf, 4 because more often than not they reject the request on the first try.

[Suicane]

It takes three seasons at least to get new turf,

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[iceman99]

Constitiution is solid IMO... Many of the concerns I saw have been brought up already.

As for conditional picks. I say NO. Simply because of what Matt brought up. Nothing worse then making a move to either get a pick or save cap space, only to have the trade nulled due to poor planning.

I do like what Jeff said about a penalty for not having the pick... But I do think it would put to much pressure on the commish.

[roadrash]

looks good

[Cydney]

It's alright I guess :P

[Warhammer]

Another item that plays a large roll in injuries is turf condition. Several teams have seen their turf condition go down in recent years, they need to fix their field and their injury problems should go away.

It takes three seasons at least to get new turf, 4 because more often than not they reject the request on the first try.

Last time this stuff came up at IHOF I mentioned this and the fact that most teams can change their turf quickly once they decide to do so. It is something that many teams just get absolutely hosed on because as you mentioned once something is determined to be done, you have to get it done or else your team gets hammered.

[P. Diddy]

my issue with conditional picks is that guys trade picks that they don't even have, and quite often. How are the commish's going to have time to regulate these types of transactions.

That was my view of it. I loathe the idea of having to say to someone "oops, you traded a pick that was a conditional part of another trade and now you dont have it" and then having to figure out what to do. It's easy to say that each person can keep track of it, but people forget stuff, I forget stuff all the time.

We all do. Exactly. Well, except Jeff.

I'd rather our new Overlords' time being spent on say... updating the HTML pages (I'd love to see the transaction list, injuries, cap numbers, or standings from work)... than playing referee on vague conditionals... If you have conditionals, you'll have more trades and you know it's going to get messy at some point. What are the conditions? When are their fruition dates? Who sets them? Who enforces them? Who makes sure they're met? Who keeps track?