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  • Gorski's upcoming b-ball game

    Saw this was posted over at FOFC..

    Agent mode? Are you kidding me? As soon as I saw that posted I knew guys were going to be all, "Whooooaz." The ceiling for that part of the game is Inside the Park Baseball. More than likely it's going to be a little time killer that leaves guys scratching their heads for an hour or so until they give up and never look back at that part of the game.

    I've had beef with Gary in the past, so I'm not at all afraid to let people know how much I think his games suck. He's a bad coder in general, the graphics in his games (courtesy of Paul Yuan) are nice, but the interfaces are pure drivel and that falls back down to Gary. His games look very complex, but under the hood they usually don't add up.

    One instance I remember was trying to extend a guy's contract. He was asking for something like 20 million dollars over 4 seasons. I offered him 20 million dollars over 2 seasons and he rejected it. He countered with 40 million dollars over 4 seasons. Nice negotiating...

    He says his trade AI is the most realistic of any sports game. LOL

    a) It doesn't know how to trade for expiring contracts, something that is pretty important in the NBA

    b) You'll be flat out rejected if you offer a guy who the computer deems to be making too much. I'm not talking about Marbury making 20 mill a year, but some reserve who is making 3 or 4 million. If the computer thinks he should be making chump change you can't offer him in any part of a deal, not even if you take a bloated contract in return.

    I just don't have any confidence in anything that guy makes anymore. Have any of you guys had a different experience?
    "Larry Deasoooooooooooooooooon" -- Phil Jenkins

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    wow, i guess i'll proceed w/ caution. i was only 30% sure i'd get this game, i'm really only into Jim's games or SI's games these days but am willing to have an open mind.


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    • #3
      ive played poker with gary, he seems like a nice guy.
      I luv British womenz.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hell Atlantic
        wow, i guess i'll proceed w/ caution. i was only 30% sure i'd get this game, i'm really only into Jim's games or SI's games these days but am willing to have an open mind.
        Well, anything that offers a demo is usually at least worth a look. Take my comments at face value as I really don't like Gary and I'm also a pretty pick gamer. I too like Football Manager for example, but there are still plenty of other guys that would tell you the game is plagued with problems.

        I think Gary's games are bought by a fair amount of guys, but I don't think the percentage of guys who think they've gotten their money's worth is very high. His college basketball game was proclaimed to be amazing by some, but it only generated a small amount of "Impressions" pages at FOFC. It just seems like the same guys razzle about his games all the time. Like MizzouRah, for example. He'd probably pay 50 dollars for an e-mail from Arlie or Gary though.
        "Larry Deasoooooooooooooooooon" -- Phil Jenkins

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Suicane
          ive played poker with gary, he seems like a nice guy.
          lol

          I hope that is referencing something you said in the past and isn't come innocent comment. If it is, I'll be disappointed.
          "Larry Deasoooooooooooooooooon" -- Phil Jenkins

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          • #6
            Nope. It's my only memberance/view of mr gorski. I wont buy the game though as my list of game makers to buy from has been reduced to Shaun Sullivan and Jim Gindin, i'm done buying sports text sims from anyone else.
            I luv British womenz.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Suicane
              Nope. It's my only memberance/view of mr gorski. I wont buy the game though as my list of game makers to buy from has been reduced to Shaun Sullivan and Jim Gindin, i'm done buying sports text sims from anyone else.
              i'm basaically in the same boat here


              Claire, That's Disgusting - A Heroes Blog

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              • #8
                Get off of my boat.
                I luv British womenz.

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                • #9
                  But for real, Shaun has shown a desire and interaction with his customer base to deliver the kind of game they want. PureSim is not a great game yet, but I have more faith in him than any other developer out there, wether it be Markus, GD, GG, USA or USSR.
                  I luv British womenz.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Suicane
                    But for real, Shaun has shown a desire and interaction with his customer base to deliver the kind of game they want. PureSim is not a great game yet, but I have more faith in him than any other developer out there, wether it be Markus, GD, GG, USA or USSR.
                    what if his name was Walrus McPhee - would you trust him still?


                    Claire, That's Disgusting - A Heroes Blog

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                    • #11
                      Whos Gorski? Never heard of him. I pretty much gave up on home-ade sims long time ago. I remember when I bought this one game had five-star ratings for basketball game was lame though...didnt even simulate a game right. What was that one??? :P

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                      • #12
                        Jeff and I have talked about this, and I remember his frustration with TCB. My own experience with Gary is good though, but I've only been talking programming with him. I haven't played any of his games outside the demos, so I've never had to discuss bugs etc.

                        Basically, in my contacts with him he's been really nice and cool about things.

                        I don't want to comment on his games though.

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                        • #13
                          Whos Gorski? Never heard of him. I pretty much gave up on home-ade sims long time ago. I remember when I bought this one game had five-star ratings for basketball game was lame though...didnt even simulate a game right. What was that one???
                          Yeah it was TCB. Damn dude I was drunk that night...[/quote]

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                          • #14
                            Whos Gorski? Never heard of him. I pretty much gave up on home-ade sims long time ago. I remember when I bought this one game had five-star ratings for basketball game was lame though...didnt even simulate a game right. What was that one???
                            Yeah it was TCB. Damn dude I was drunk that night...

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                            • #15
                              Going to miss the 2006 4th quarter deadline. Also, agent mode was removed (oh snap!).
                              "Larry Deasoooooooooooooooooon" -- Phil Jenkins

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