2020 Training Camp Done

[Suicane]

And here we go.

[VitoStallion]

Tyler got +4 future, we'll take it

[Hoosier]

well that sucked..lol

[DDT]

2.4 CB Alex Inskeep 19/33...24/51...+5/+18 I'm guessing half the increase is the CB/S switch and half is a good camp. 51 overall is largely a function of maxed out RD potential. Needs to get better in coverage
2.6 TE Dexter Kroeger 17/37...21/44... +4/+7 Should be a good solid player. Excellent hands.
2.26 WR Hunter 'Whiskey' Stills 26/47...29/48...+3/+1 2nd or 3rd receiver/punt returner.
3.3 LG Hardy Stephens 19/26...22/31...+3/+5 Eh. Ladies and Gentlemen the Toads starting LG.
6.4 DE Chuck Middleton 16/28...16/31...-/+3 Moved from DE to NT. I did the same thing last year with Stone. Stone is worth developing. This guy isn't.
6.23 ILB Marco Wickman 16/39...22/39... +6/- Good run defense bar and not much else. I consider ILB to be a team strength. Good, solid, cheap depth. Not a sexy pick but not a bad one.
7.3 DE JT Klein 14/23...8/20...-6/-3 Tried to turn him into a LB. Fail.
7.24 LB Hardy Straw 8/26...18/34...+10/+8 Successful move to DE just not quite enough there on a roster already crowded at DE.

This isn't going the way I planned two years into a roster turnover. I would have liked to start with the OL simply because of the longer career length. The line may have regressed in my tenure. Hitting one out of the park in the mid late rounds the last 2 drafts would have been nice. Lots of options in the draft going forward.

[Mike17]

Did my export not take?

[VitoStallion]

Top Movement Current Ratings - Class of 2018

Name	Team	Pos	Exp	'20 Pre Wk 1 Cur	'20 Pre Wk 1 Fut	Overall Current	Overall Future
Danny Ouellette	Wichita Outlaws	QB	3	90	90	30	9
Thurman Levine	Houston Renegades	TE	3	65	77	26	6
Mickey Dahnke	Orlando Pirates	LG	3	71	75	25	7
Glen Humphrey	Dakota Spirit	RG	3	90	90	25	4
J.C. Robbins	Little Rock Toads	SLB	3	83	83	25	3
Dustin O'Donnell	St. Louis Cardinals	TE	3	70	70	23	1
Brandon Kennedy	Pennsylvania Lions	SE	3	49	49	23	-3
Lenny Zuck	Lawrence Phantoms	LT	3	46	50	22	0
Mario Gurley	Salt Lake City Stallions	QB	3	29	48	18	6
Shawn Hanks	Norfolk Vipers	C	3	48	48	18	0
Ellis Sevcik	Vermont Mountaineers	LT	3	33	49	18	-2
Grady Collier	Louisiana Voodoo	RCB	3	81	81	17	4
Brock Colon	Georgia Generals	LG	3	57	57	17	2
Jessie Dillon	Reno Wolfpack	LDT	3	37	45	17	-3
Marc Kelley	Vancouver Killer Whales	TE	3	44	44	16	-1
Jamal Waldron	Murfreesboro Mules	RDE	3	48	56	16	-1
Lewis Sanford	Anchorage Lynx	SLB	3	41	41	16	-6
Johnny Devine	Cleveland Clawz	FS	3	42	42	15	4
Roger Adachi	Los Angeles Liberty	RDT	3	56	57	15	3
Gino Copeland	Murfreesboro Mules	RT	3	38	47	15	0
Don Downing	Salt Lake City Stallions	QB	3	40	53	15	0
Brenden Horton	Houston Renegades	LDE	3	41	45	15	-1
Peter Van Verth	West Virginia Beasts	QB	3	36	55	15	-1
Dusty Hickson	Orlando Pirates	RT	3	50	65	15	-2
Victor Schreiner	Murfreesboro Mules	TE	3	52	52	14	4
Herman Carter	Wichita Outlaws	WLB	3	33	39	14	-2
Travis Greer	Little Rock Toads	LDE	3	45	45	14	-5
William McTyer	Little Rock Toads	SS	3	44	44	13	7
Tom Mallard	Los Angeles Liberty	RB	3	72	72	13	4
Walter Oliver	Vancouver Killer Whales	FB	3	39	49	13	3
Kevin Cornyn	Chicago Dragons	FB	3	65	65	13	0
Earnest Lang	Vermont Mountaineers	LDT	3	52	52	13	-10
Hunter Drake	Dakota Spirit	LDE	3	62	62	12	1
Lamar Barrett	Vancouver Killer Whales	SLB	3	39	39	12	-2
Ricky Reilly	St. Louis Cardinals	RG	3	36	45	12	-3
Harry Prior	Wichita Outlaws	RT	3	39	46	12	-3
C.J. Roberson	Lansing Ogres	LDT	3	39	39	12	-9
Bart Gaines	Texas Trojans	TE	3	34	40	11	3
Ray Vance	Iowa City Snipe Hunters	C	3	31	49	11	0
Winston Stuart	Oakland Devildogs	FL	3	67	67	11	0
Robbie Dixon	Lansing Ogres	QB	3	37	39	11	-1
Hardy Rhodes	Oakland Devildogs	QB	3	23	41	11	-3
Derek Torres	Oakland Devildogs	LCB	3	45	45	11	-6
Rufus Richardson	Fresno Warthogs	WLB	3	45	45	11	-6
Floyd Broughton	Pennsylvania Lions	RB	3	45	49	10	6
Kennedy Bonk	Lawrence Phantoms	LCB	3	52	52	10	4
Jay Carlisle	Salt Lake City Stallions	C	3	23	35	10	2
Hardy Henry	Newark Bulldogs	MLB	3	42	42	10	2
Frankie Randle	Iowa City Snipe Hunters	SILB	3	47	47	10	1
Conrad Hayes	Vancouver Killer Whales	RG	3	36	43	10	1
Mo Gillespie	Georgia Generals	SILB	3	39	39	10	1
Shaun Hempstead	Little Rock Toads	RG	3	38	39	10	0
Wally Hastings	Cleveland Clawz	SILB	3	41	41	10	-2
Johnny Hardy	Salt Lake City Stallions	WLB	3	41	45	10	-3
Rich Stein	Houston Renegades	LT	3	23	40	10	-3
Gino Wilcox	Houston Renegades	RT	3	49	49	10	-4
T.J. Rocco	St. Louis Cardinals	LCB	3	78	78	10	-5
Shawn Gradkowski	Newark Bulldogs	QB	3	27	36	10	-5
Damon Lundberg	Orlando Pirates	SS	3	41	41	10	-13

[VitoStallion]

taking requests...

[VitoStallion]

2020 - Better than we thought...

Name	Team	Pos	Exp	'20 Pre Wk 1 Cur	'20 Pre Wk 1 Fut	Overall Current	Overall Future
Alex Inskeep	Little Rock Toads	SS	1	26	53	6	18
Clay Cowell	Portland Seals	LCB	1	35	46	10	11
Hardy Straw	Little Rock Toads	RDE	1	18	35	10	9
Dan Culhane	Portland Seals	LDT	1	37	54	9	9
Anthony Brooks	Salt Lake City Stallions	SILB	1	23	47	5	8
Curtis Foreman	Portland Seals	FL	1	29	40	8	8
Winfred Brisby	Reno Wolfpack	P	1	69	86	10	7
Dexter Kroeger	Little Rock Toads	TE	1	22	47	5	7
Marc Noe	Fresno Warthogs	FB	1	38	49	13	6
Melvin Sutton	Houston Renegades	FB	1	34	49	5	6
Dean Smith	Portland Seals	LDE	1	15	28	3	6
Hardy Stephens	Little Rock Toads	LG	1	22	32	3	6
Lamar Shea	Georgia Generals	FB	1	27	48	4	5
Emmanuel Doggett	Fresno Warthogs	TE	1	63	76	9	5
Louis Whiting	Georgia Generals	LCB	1	30	62	3	5
Corwin Hawthorne	Lawrence Phantoms	SE	1	26	47	4	5
Joey Stargell	Houston Renegades	K	1	75	75	4	4
Randall Farmer	Cleveland Clawz	WLB	1	20	36	1	4
Louie Rivera	Dakota Spirit	FB	1	40	63	6	4
Chuck Middleton	Little Rock Toads	NT	1	17	32	1	4
Grant Toviessi	Houston Renegades	QB	1	21	49	7	4
Vince Cochrane	Cleveland Clawz	FS	1	24	34	5	4
Joseph Swinton	Louisiana Voodoo	RB	1	35	41	4	4
Joe Kramer	Wichita Outlaws	P	1	49	57	5	4
Antonio Tyler	Salt Lake City Stallions	QB	1	4	23	0	4
Jerome Lynn	Portland Seals	NT	1	18	31	3	3
Monty Harkin	Salt Lake City Stallions	FS	1	16	25	4	3
Alan Vetter	Dakota Spirit	LCB	1	12	23	3	3
Sammy Gilman	Reno Wolfpack	C	1	49	56	6	3
Rickey Lowe	Vermont Mountaineers	SLB	1	25	38	4	3
Kris Warren	Iowa City Snipe Hunters	QB	1	10	46	4	3
Donald Wachter	Los Angeles Liberty	RDT	1	31	52	6	3
Ryan Goings	Madison Demons	SILB	1	18	25	4	3
Ty Howe	Iowa City Snipe Hunters	RDT	1	27	30	3	3
Craig Hover	Portland Seals	SE	1	10	21	2	3
Robert Moss	Fresno Warthogs	LCB	1	23	42	5	2
Omar Grier	Salt Lake City Stallions	LCB	1	21	31	4	2
Bucky Garibay	Salt Lake City Stallions	FS	1	16	33	3	2
Nathan Kong	Chicago Dragons	LDT	1	26	35	3	2
Omar Dabbs	Anchorage Lynx	RDE	1	24	44	2	2
Sam Jensen	Texas Trojans	RB	1	27	45	4	2
Arnold Dragon	Lawrence Phantoms	QB	1	14	34	5	2
Percy Queen	Orlando Pirates	RDT	1	20	32	3	2
Kyle Beisel	Chicago Dragons	SLB	1	21	48	4	2
Pat Uusutalo	Reno Wolfpack	LG	1	69	76	6	2
Luke Howard	Norfolk Vipers	TE	1	25	37	3	1
Henry Terrell	Salt Lake City Stallions	WLB	1	14	25	2	1
Ralph Carpenter	Lansing Ogres	LDE	1	25	46	3	1
Bryan Hopkins	Pennsylvania Lions	RT	1	15	38	4	1
Glenn Dole	Chicago Dragons	SE	1	17	25	2	1
Craig Woodard	Los Angeles Liberty	RCB	1	15	29	2	1
Jumbo Fiteny	Vancouver Killer Whales	C	1	22	36	3	1
R.J. Collins	Chicago Dragons	RB	1	35	35	3	1
Clarence Scarborough	Tulsa TigerHawks	RB	1	28	38	3	1
Artie Contois	Lansing Ogres	FL	1	19	30	0	1
Alvin Ballard	Houston Renegades	RDT	1	26	42	4	1
Kelly Whitfield	Lawrence Phantoms	FL	1	27	48	4	1
Hunter Stills	Little Rock Toads	FL	1	30	48	4	1
Jimmie Krykhtine	Vermont Mountaineers	LDE	1	46	60	6	1
Morris Schroeder	Pennsylvania Lions	LCB	1	16	27	3	1
Alan Bianchi	Wichita Outlaws	C	1	13	35	3	1
Greg Tyler	Vancouver Killer Whales	RDE	1	31	53	5	1
Marco Wickman	Little Rock Toads	SILB	1	22	39	6	1
Quinn Lyle	Salt Lake City Stallions	FL	1	25	37	2	1
D.J. Phelps	Salt Lake City Stallions	FL	1	17	26	1	1
Scottie Janssen	Anchorage Lynx	RDT	1	26	35	3	1
Jared Strickland	Tulsa TigerHawks	QB	1	12	28	2	1
Willie Ward	Orlando Pirates	WLB	1	25	29	3	1
Howard Crute	Vancouver Killer Whales	QB	1	12	37	3	1

[VitoStallion]

Not as good as we thought...

Name	Team	Pos	Exp	'20 Pre Wk 1 Cur	'20 Pre Wk 1 Fut	Overall Current	Overall Future
Brent Davison	Portland Seals	QB	1	4	20	-10	-27
Toby Collins	Oakland Devildogs	LDT	1	14	37	-18	-24
Xavier Lincoln	Fresno Warthogs	FL	1	22	52	1	-10
Willie Turnbull	Los Angeles Liberty	FL	1	13	34	1	-10
Lance Crummey	Chicago Dragons	RDE	1	23	41	-3	-10
Darrell Herod	Madison Demons	LT	1	23	50	2	-10
Warren Donaldson	Lawrence Phantoms	K	1	30	55	0	-9
Marshall Stokes	Vermont Mountaineers	RDE	1	29	52	3	-8
Eddie Zeller	Reno Wolfpack	SLB	1	14	49	3	-8
Wendell Hadden	Orlando Pirates	SE	1	28	49	2	-8
Erik Shields	Norfolk Vipers	P	1	41	66	-1	-8
Nolan Sato	West Virginia Beasts	SLB	1	20	41	3	-8
Dixon Barber	Vermont Mountaineers	SS	1	12	44	2	-8
Robbie Kinney	Reno Wolfpack	QB	1	17	54	4	-8
Doug Cook	Reno Wolfpack	RDT	1	18	36	2	-8
Chester Simmons	Vermont Mountaineers	QB	1	12	40	2	-8
Emmanuel Wilcox	Reno Wolfpack	RDE	1	20	48	3	-8
Herman Thornton	Houston Renegades	SE	1	34	56	3	-7
Blaine Ulmer	Vermont Mountaineers	RCB	1	25	43	1	-7
Wes Hoover	Anchorage Lynx	SLB	1	17	49	5	-7
Gus Andreou	Wichita Outlaws	SE	1	19	35	1	-7
Mack Janis	Los Angeles Liberty	QB	1	15	49	2	-7
Rickey Ward	Texas Trojans	LCB	1	26	44	1	-7
Bucky McMurrin	Texas Trojans	SS	1	16	39	3	-7
Ron Stargell	Orlando Pirates	FL	1	16	49	-1	-7
Kelvin Negrelli	Vermont Mountaineers	SLB	1	18	42	3	-7
Omar Strickland	Anchorage Lynx	WLB	1	18	37	1	-7
Daryl Coles	Hartford Grizzlies	TE	1	23	42	2	-7
Alonzo Bryant	Pennsylvania Lions	QB	1	18	45	2	-7
Wayne Garrett	Salt Lake City Stallions	SS	1	23	52	4	-7
Bernie Jefferson	Dakota Spirit	RCB	1	29	35	0	-7
Gabe Preston	Orlando Pirates	RCB	1	17	42	2	-6
Horace Young	Chicago Dragons	QB	1	17	43	3	-6
Jessie Schulz	Anchorage Lynx	MLB	1	28	63	5	-6
Bob Walls	Lawrence Phantoms	LCB	1	18	47	4	-6
Sherman Crotti	Lansing Ogres	RDT	1	22	41	2	-6
Kim Bell	Fresno Warthogs	FL	1	16	38	2	-6
Clay Schmitt	Montreal Firebirds	SE	1	15	29	1	-6
Chad Stemke	Reno Wolfpack	C	1	14	42	2	-6
Ronald Porter	Fresno Warthogs	RCB	1	29	45	2	-6
Rick Totten	St. Louis Cardinals	P	1	65	75	-1	-6
Rico de los Santos	Reno Wolfpack	K	1	45	62	-1	-6
Benjamin York	Little Rock Toads	QB	1	22	37	3	-6
Clyde Humphrey	Georgia Generals	LCB	1	42	54	3	-6
Luther Snyder	Houston Renegades	RDE	1	18	39	2	-6
Mark Fletcher	Newark Bulldogs	QB	1	17	48	3	-6
Neil Vaughn	Orlando Pirates	SLB	1	18	39	2	-6
Deion Muniz	Pennsylvania Lions	SLB	1	21	41	4	-6
J.C. Shields	Norfolk Vipers	RB	1	35	48	2	-6
Norbert Walton	Madison Demons	RDE	1	10	38	2	-6
Jeremy Kaplan	Salt Lake City Stallions	SS	1	16	39	3	-6
Marcus Collier	Madison Demons	K	1	39	62	0	-6
Lance Joyner	Cleveland Clawz	SS	1	20	44	2	-6
Adam Leathers	Texas Trojans	SE	1	17	35	2	-6
Howard Pharms	Dakota Spirit	LT	1	29	61	4	-6
Adam DeVane	Little Rock Toads	RT	1	13	40	2	-6
Marshall Fleming	Anchorage Lynx	FB	1	40	56	3	-6
Irving Tillman	Vermont Mountaineers	FL	1	25	43	2	-6
Cory Bailey	Louisiana Voodoo	FB	1	21	39	2	-6
Leo Cox	Salt Lake City Stallions	FB	1	11	36	2	-6
Sammy Hawkey	Los Angeles Liberty	FB	1	25	46	1	-6
Morris Berry	Texas Trojans	WLB	1	18	38	2	-6
Juan Seeley	Chicago Dragons	SILB	1	25	49	3	-5
J.T. Shapiro	Pennsylvania Lions	RCB	1	23	40	2	-5
Mo Mularkey	Hartford Grizzlies	LG	1	18	44	3	-5
Eric Johnstone	Los Angeles Liberty	RB	1	25	35	1	-5
Kirk Nutt	Orlando Pirates	SS	1	36	54	5	-5
Brady Myers	Dakota Spirit	QB	1	21	48	3	-5

[VitoStallion]

Lance Crummey

I recall the Whales saying they'd never do that -- damn

[VitoStallion]

2.4 CB Alex Inskeep 19/33...24/51...+5/+18 I'm guessing half the increase is the CB/S switch and half is a good camp. 51 overall is largely a function of maxed out RD potential. Needs to get better in coverage
2.6 TE Dexter Kroeger 17/37...21/44... +4/+7 Should be a good solid player. Excellent hands.
2.26 WR Hunter 'Whiskey' Stills 26/47...29/48...+3/+1 2nd or 3rd receiver/punt returner.
3.3 LG Hardy Stephens 19/26...22/31...+3/+5 Eh. Ladies and Gentlemen the Toads starting LG.
6.4 DE Chuck Middleton 16/28...16/31...-/+3 Moved from DE to NT. I did the same thing last year with Stone. Stone is worth developing. This guy isn't.
6.23 ILB Marco Wickman 16/39...22/39... +6/- Good run defense bar and not much else. I consider ILB to be a team strength. Good, solid, cheap depth. Not a sexy pick but not a bad one.
7.3 DE JT Klein 14/23...8/20...-6/-3 Tried to turn him into a LB. Fail.
7.24 LB Hardy Straw 8/26...18/34...+10/+8 Successful move to DE just not quite enough there on a roster already crowded at DE.

This isn't going the way I planned two years into a roster turnover. I would have liked to start with the OL simply because of the longer career length. The line may have regressed in my tenure. Hitting one out of the park in the mid late rounds the last 2 drafts would have been nice. Lots of options in the draft going forward.

Nice draft!

[SteveBsFan]

3 drafts picks, 1 UDFA on the boom list, but my 1st rounder on the bust list, not good. I wish I could remember who my alternate was for that pick, but I still think Thornton will be ok.

[DDT]

Anyone interested in Straw? I'll settle for a 7 before we cut to 53. First 6 gets him. He'll be the 5th DE here for awhile. Should hang around the IFL for more than a coffee. Not here, though.

Traded Straw to SLC. Sorry I didn't post it in my trade block. More of an idle comment in the hot thread and things moved quickly between Vito & I. What can I say... the man knows me like only a lover can.

[VitoStallion]

pm sent

[DDT]

I'm impressed with what Portland did. Drafting guys with decent bars who have good camps and get even better bars. Seems like I could learn something there. I won't. I refuse. Eventually, I'll get one of these 10's/20's position switch guys to REALLY boom. They'll be famous. I know they will because I'll make them famous. The first 5th or later I get to boom 25+ with a position switch will be the IFL Snookie. Has anyone used that nickname yet? I call it!