2018 Offseason Discussion

[Matt]

you have to win consecutively. you can't win 1 season and expect to make money. you have to build up public support

[Matt]

obiviously, the more home games you have (i.e. home playoff games) helps the revenue.

[Jave]

you have to win consecutively. you can't win 1 season and expect to make money. you have to build up public support

Maybe I should have a 3 year plan........

[Matt]

Maybe I should have a 3 year plan........

hell of an idea

[SteveBsFan]

everyone controls their own financial situation. If you can win, you will bring people to the stadium and will bring in money. It can be done! I personally don't have a problem with the system. It's not perfect, but it works.

I disagree about SLC being the perfect case study for this. They did win a lot in the early years, but from that chart they only started making money when they were able to add better seats.


2008 (11-5) -$89m
Stadium Improvements
2009 (11-5) +79m
2010 (2-14) +97m
2011 (2-14) +69m

Personally, I've been trying to add club seats to club seats and more luxury boxes nearly every single season since I've joined the league, and my public support for stadium has never increased, and I've been rejected every year.

Even if I sold out every game, I'm not sure it would cover my operating costs unless I pull a LRK or Orlando and go like 80m under the cap.

I think if the game was tweaked a little bit where it didn't take 15 years of straight winning to build fan loyalty, it may be easier to deal with finances. In 2008 I went 12-4, next season 11-5, and 10-6 after that, yet my attendance was lower than when I was winning like 5 games in 2004.

[DakotaGeorge]

I went 11-5 this year and lost 71 million so I'm not sure how many years in a row you have to win in order to make money.

quit paying all your players contracts in signing bonus.

[Matt]

I disagree about SLC being the perfect case study for this. They did win a lot in the early years, but from that chart they only started making money when they were able to add better seats.


2008 (11-5) -$89m
Stadium Improvements
2009 (11-5) +79m
2010 (2-14) +97m
2011 (2-14) +69m

Personally, I've been trying to add club seats to club seats and more luxury boxes nearly every single season since I've joined the league, and my public support for stadium has never increased, and I've been rejected every year.

Even if I sold out every game, I'm not sure it would cover my operating costs unless I pull a LRK or Orlando and go like 80m under the cap.

I think if the game was tweaked a little bit where it didn't take 15 years of straight winning to build fan loyalty, it may be easier to deal with finances. In 2008 I went 12-4, next season 11-5, and 10-6 after that, yet my attendance was lower than when I was winning like 5 games in 2004.

so pay up and add seats!!!!! lol
I'd have to go and look at SLC, but from what i recall they were a winning franchise. got their shit approved and then started making money

[tarcone]

so pay up and add seats!!!!! lol
I'd have to go and look at SLC, but from what i recall they were a winning franchise. got their shit approved and then started making money

That bug is fixed in version 6.4. It will be interesting to see what SLC does next season.

Everyone loved the rule in the HFL. It added a little to this real boring part of the game.

[SteveBsFan]

so pay up and add seats!!!!! lol
I'd have to go and look at SLC, but from what i recall they were a winning franchise. got their shit approved and then started making money

Every year I try I always offer to pay 50%, but I have 0 public support for new projects so I'm always rejected. Maybe my offers are too much for one time, but I figure once you start a project, the cost to add seats isn't as high as just doing the project in general. Perhaps there is also some code in the game that prevents a stadium from getting a certain size and I always go over it, but that can't be the case since Portland has a 99k!?! stadium. My plan right now is to add about 10k club seats and 50 luxury seats.

My best guess with SLC and anyone else who gets it approved is that they had an old, lousy stadium which allowed them to have high public support for new projects.

Right now I'm the only team in the league with 0 club seats and that absolutely kills my revenue. Sure, winning fills the stands, but when you see shit like $116million just from Suites for Lawrence, you get a bit jealous come coach hiring time when you don't even have a chance to re-sign your own guys first.

[Matt]

I wasn't speaking about exploits. I was just talking about adding seats and charging more money.....or less money to get more people in.

[Matt]

Every year I try I always offer to pay 50%, but I have 0 public support for new projects so I'm always rejected. Maybe my offers are too much for one time, but I figure once you start a project, the cost to add seats isn't as high as just doing the project in general. Perhaps there is also some code in the game that prevents a stadium from getting a certain size and I always go over it, but that can't be the case since Portland has a 99k!?! stadium. My plan right now is to add about 10k club seats and 50 luxury seats.

My best guess with SLC and anyone else who gets it approved is that they had an old, lousy stadium which allowed them to have high public support for new projects.

Right now I'm the only team in the league with 0 club seats and that absolutely kills my revenue. Sure, winning fills the stands, but when you see shit like $116million just from Suites for Lawrence, you get a bit jealous come coach hiring time when you don't even have a chance to re-sign your own guys first.

wow, I had no idea that you didn't even have a club seat. damn man. that does suck

[SteveBsFan]

Yup, so I'm screwed when my coaches become FA's again. I'm in favor of that rule for next season if we ever put it to a vote

On a stadium issue, I just wish I knew what I was doing wrong there.

[Suicane]

I hope Ed Donaldson drops a turd so big that he clogs Fresnos pipes and ends up flooding their stadium, forcing them to practice at the local high school.

[tarcone]

I won despite Poston, Matt. Just thought you needed to know that.

[Matt]

lol
no worries, Tarc.

sorry about taking your coach. The best time to get a new coach is when yours is under contract. In this case, I felt the need for change. Gunn had been with us since 2010 and doesn't win in the playoffs.
Poston will hopefully change things. by no means is this saying the upgrade in coach was worth the after effects, but more so because we needed change.