Draft Discussion, Chatter, etc Thread (Files updated thru 7.21)

[Chris Rex]

My 7th round pick is confused about his sexuality. Apparently he really really likes Chuck Morris.

He's not confused. Even manly men fall prey to the sheer sexuality that is Chuck Norris.

[Coder]

He's not confused. Even manly men fall prey to the sheer sexuality that is Chuck Norris.

Do a search for Chuck Morris... not Norris.. Morris.. your statement still stands though Ask HA!

[hawkster]

Hey Chris, my new punter told me he wants to be your 'Buddy'

[dberner30]

I get where you're coming from DB, the problem is that the utility is the best way for us to draft and it's pretty much set in concrete the way it works. Nobody here has the know how to fiddle with it outside of the easiest of fixes. Basicaly we use it as it is or we don't use it, and we pretty much need to use it for the overall ease of everyone. Jeff did suggest going untimed today and tommorow since we were gonna finish in time anyway, I put the kaybash on that idea but maybe he was right, perhaps next year if we're in this same situation that wouldnt be a bad idea. My only worry was that I was positive certain guys would not show up in any due time and could have held the round up for many, many hours.

I do know that next years draft will have penalites for those who miss multiple picks as has been discussed before but not implemented.

Thing is, there are guys who I know arn't bothering, and thus using all the time, and guys who I know are bothering but for whatever reason just missed their time, and I can't really treat them differently except to penalize those who miss multiple picks.

Trust me, I know that people have lives and can't be around a large majority of the time in alot of situations. I'm open to workable input and will definately have some different guidlines for next years draft.

All in all though I think we did pretty damn good.

this is the articulate and thoughtful response i was seeking...it has been nice to see real discussion on this question...

i understand our limits...we need to mull over how to resolve the question of the run of picks...no matter how many people make a list and no matter how many names are on a list those runs end somewhere...when they do the 3 or 4 guys at that point get jobbed...when you look at a utility and see you are on pick 6-20 and come back 5 or 6 hours later and find pick 7-24 has been passed that is the issue. these runs and the guys holding the bag is what needs a tweak in our system...the guy who doesnt show up at all is different.

My missed pick at 4-10 was the same basic issue but i the run was a little shorter and the time window a little smaller...and when you look at my roster the "best available" and "needed position" player at 4-10 is the shittiest pick of my draft...frankly a wasted pick on a position i didnt really need...

[eckman]

The easiest solution is to use the set draft times as done in the USFL league. You would have to use the board draft unless you can talk them into letting us use their draft utility(which is nice.. no need for mods it will randomly pick a top 10 player for missed picks).Takes longer but takes care of this issue. I am fine with whatever we use.

I do think there should be a penalty for missing picks or not logging in during the draft.

[George W Bush]

2 thoughts. Later rounds should have a longer time limit, I think 1 hour is too short. Missing picks repeatedly should decrease your time available for future picks.

[Warhammer]

Two things:

1) A one hour time limit is way too short. I checked in yesterday at 9:30, there were still some 6 or 7 picks in front of me, the one guy picks, the rest fire off, and then when I check in at 11:30, the pick has already been made for me.

2) Limit the timed portion of the draft to one round per day. It's not hard to setup a 20-25 player list, but late in the draft that becomes awfully hard.


3) If someone has a list and for a variety of reasons does not fire, take someone from the list rather than in game need. I would have much less of a problem if a pick was made for me by my list rather than by in game need. It would also encourage people to use lists more. I prefer to make my picks live, but still use a list just in case.

[George W Bush]

3) If someone has a list and for a variety of reasons does not fire, take someone from the list rather than in game need. I would have much less of a problem if a pick was made for me by my list rather than by in game need. It would also encourage people to use lists more. I prefer to make my picks live, but still use a list just in case.

I thought this was being done when a list was there but off and time expired?

[Kobeck]

I agree with dberner that a run of picks can make it difficult to prep a list. I like to make a list, but I don't normally like a 31 person list, although sometimes I load a list up it is usually just holding names for me. Usually only the top 4-5 names are actually sorted and even with a list I try and check in to make sure it is sorted properly.

How about a "mercy rule" of sorts where whenever more than say 4 picks come off in a row then toss in say 15 mins each for the remainder. so if 8 auto picks rolled off then an hour would be added to the team on the clock.

Just a thought. but 8 picks is not the issue it is when 18 roll off that people get caught off guard.

It would be interesting to have appointments for your draft picks. Could still wheel and deal and you would constantly know you were on the clock, cause your next pick will be at 11:40 cst, and the pick after that will be at 11:50 ect. everyone is constantly on the clock and everyone knows when the draft will finish, ect. you would be able to check in an hour prior and set a list of 5-6 or whatever without worrying about a run of picks passing your draft slot up

[Kobeck]

round 1 30 mins appointments makes 16 hour draft day.

round 2-3 15 mins appointments makes 16 hours combined for both rounds

round 4-6 10 mins appointments makes 16 hours combined for all three roounds

round 7 how about 5-6 minute appointments making 3 hours for round 7.

using our current 8am-midnight system then round:

day 1 round 1.1 - 1.32
day 2 round 2.1 - 3.32
day 3 round 4.1 - 6.32
day 4 round 7.1 - 7.32

this would allow whoever to have a post draft file available by noon of day 4 of the draft

just a thought

[Warhammer]

I thought this was being done when a list was there but off and time expired?

Didn't happen in my case. Louie Bono (whatever his name was) was on my list when the FB was picked for me. I would have much rather had Bono picked there and take someone else I wanted with the later pick.

[Hell Atlantic]

Do a search for Chuck Morris... not Norris.. Morris.. your statement still stands though Ask HA!

Chuck Morris wears a cup not to protect his genitalia.


It's to protect YOU from his genitalia.

[tarcone]

sorry I missed my 7th round pick. I was not available and when I checked last I had at least a full round ahead of me before my pick.
Sorry I held up the draft.

[George W Bush]

round 1 30 mins appointments makes 16 hour draft day.

round 2-3 15 mins appointments makes 16 hours combined for both rounds

round 4-6 10 mins appointments makes 16 hours combined for all three roounds

round 7 how about 5-6 minute appointments making 3 hours for round 7.

using our current 8am-midnight system then round:

day 1 round 1.1 - 1.32
day 2 round 2.1 - 3.32
day 3 round 4.1 - 6.32
day 4 round 7.1 - 7.32

this would allow whoever to have a post draft file available by noon of day 4 of the draft

just a thought

it seems to me that such a system would create a lot more picks that need to be made by the mods. 10 minutes, 5 minutes.. are you serious? your list runs out or you intend to make your pick and something comes up for a few minutes and you miss your pick. this draft took 5 days, is saving 1 day really something that would matter?

[RichardM]

I would have to say that the "smoothest" draft(s) I have been a part of are "appointment time drafts" with a utility or without. I will agree that kind of draft does take a little longer, but for the most part the draft is one of the really important parts of FOF and should not be rushed.