Best interior lineman in the league

[JesterBlaze]

I can make it conditional.

Conditional trades are still illegal in the IFL I believe.


This is something we might want to revisit/vote on in the off-season.

[Matt]

look, you are seriously reading wayyy too far in to this.

I wouldn't trade for Caro for a 1st rnd pick right now. 10yr vet. will be on last yr of contract next year. I have a QB who has the same QB rating as Caro. There would be too much risk. If you said a 3rd rnd pick, I'd be interested.

It's all good talk, and no reason to get snippy. We haven't even gotten in to the fact that trading right now may not even be legal.

[JMO]

look, you are seriously reading wayyy too far in to this.

I wouldn't trade for Caro for a 1st rnd pick right now. 10yr vet. will be on last yr of contract next year. I have a QB who has the same QB rating as Caro. There would be too much risk. If you said a 3rd rnd pick, I'd be interested.

It's all good talk, and no reason to get snippy. We haven't even gotten in to the fact that trading right now may not even be legal.

Well it is illogical because I assume if you traded a first for Caro, then you could re sell him for much more than a single first and have no bonus repercussions. Also he is a better QB than your guy. I think that is just, the truth.

Also, aren't you the guy who asks me if I am willing to trade him every year?

The reason I am getting snippy(never heard that phrase before, but i assume it means grumpy, bitchy) is because I think the premise is very simple and it is frustrating when people don't understand it.

I'm just going to reiterate this one more time.

The trade would not go through now. It would go through in the offseason. The only reason I want to talk about it now is because of his contract situation. To get around breaching rules it can be a handshake agreement until the offseason.

That won't hurt me, because he will still be tagged.

[Kobeck]

I'm just a caveman. Your modern ways freighten and confuse me.

[Jave]

Well it is illogical because I assume if you traded a first for Caro, then you could re sell him for much more than a single first and have no bonus repercussions. Also he is a better QB than your guy. I think that is just, the truth.

Also, aren't you the guy who asks me if I am willing to trade him every year?

The reason I am getting snippy(never heard that phrase before, but i assume it means grumpy, bitchy) is because I think the premise is very simple and it is frustrating when people don't understand it.

I'm just going to reiterate this one more time.

The trade would not go through now. It would go through in the offseason. The only reason I want to talk about it now is because of his contract situation. To get around breaching rules it can be a handshake agreement until the offseason.

That won't hurt me, because he will still be tagged.

How did Caro get into the discussion anyway? I thought the entire thread was about trades Giles?

Like Jester mentioned...he send me a PM earlier in the season expressing his interest in a possible trade for Boyd. We never shook hands or agreed even in principal to a trade until the off-season because he had a top 5 pick and I had a very coveted player. We were both going to get maximum value for our offers and if either of us had received a better offer at some point, we could have backed out and went with the better value offer.
It's my opinion it may not be in your best interest to agree to a trade this early. What if you get a better offer? What if you change your mind? Alot can happen between now and when a possible trade could go through. Keep your options open and just discuss POSSIBLE trades with other owners. If you both still feel good about the trade in the off-season then u can submit it then. Just my opinion.

[tarcone]

I'm just a caveman. Your modern ways freighten and confuse me.

:lol:

[Matt]

Well it is illogical because I assume if you traded a first for Caro, then you could re sell him for much more than a single first and have no bonus repercussions. Also he is a better QB than your guy. I think that is just, the truth.

Also, aren't you the guy who asks me if I am willing to trade him every year?

The reason I am getting snippy(never heard that phrase before, but i assume it means grumpy, bitchy) is because I think the premise is very simple and it is frustrating when people don't understand it.

I'm just going to reiterate this one more time.

The trade would not go through now. It would go through in the offseason. The only reason I want to talk about it now is because of his contract situation. To get around breaching rules it can be a handshake agreement until the offseason.

That won't hurt me, because he will still be tagged.

you are totally mis-understand what I'm trying to say. I understand what you are doing. Essentially you are shopping a player. I would not commit to a trade a draft pick without seeing what I'm trading for, unless there was no risk involved. I think that most guys would do the same, which is why I made my comment from above.

I agree that Caro is better. However, i would not trade Caro for a 1st rnd pick right now, because I'm not sure the risk would beat the reward. His contract status is up for renewal, and his asking price would be a substantial cap hit. A lot of guaranteed money would be tied up, and the risk of retirement is immenent. He could retire at 12yrs......or hang on to 16. There is risk, and that's all I'm saying. AND Burger has a similar QB rating.

Do I ask every year about Caro...........yes. Hell, I may even ask again this offseason. However, I wouldn't offer anything until I have some inkling as to what I'd be trading for.

[Suicane]

Someone send me 2 pizza hut pan pizzas right now and i'll give you the rights to McMurray.

[Matt]

5 bucks 5 bucks 5 bucks 5 bucks

[JMO]

you are totally mis-understand what I'm trying to say. I understand what you are doing. Essentially you are shopping a player. I would not commit to a trade a draft pick without seeing what I'm trading for, unless there was no risk involved.

I think its pretty bad manners to go on to someones trade block and give my reasoning for why I wouldn't trade for a player. I often see a guy who I think is under or over valued and I don't go on the block and warn anyone.

DDT will know a good example of this from our other league where a WR(Word) who I thought was over valued(and i have a list of persuasive reasons) went for a high pick and i didn't make a post on the block.

Seeing as you have completely hijacked my block now anyway, lets breakdown why you are wrong this time.

I agree that Caro is better. However, i would not trade Caro for a 1st rnd pick right now, because I'm not sure the risk would beat the reward. His contract status is up for renewal, and his asking price would be a substantial cap hit. A lot of guaranteed money would be tied up, and the risk of retirement is immenent. He could retire at 12yrs......or hang on to 16. There is risk, and that's all I'm saying. AND Burger has a similar QB rating.

Everything in this paragraph is the same now as before the draft. Nothing changes in Caro's case. There is still the contract situation, he is still nearing retirement, he is still guaranteed a lot of money.

In Giles' case, there is none of the above fears.

[Matt]

I can make it conditional. For example, it could look something like this.

here is the verbage from the constitution.

F) Conditonal trades are not allowed, nor is it possible to trade unsigned draft picks.