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  • Arnold "Shake" Greene: BEST WR in IFL History?

    by Spark Wonup
    Lawrence Sun Times


    In the aftermath of the nail in the coffin on one of the IFL's in-disputably greatest WRs of All-Time, Arnold "Shake" Greene, of the Lawrence Phantoms as he delves into retirement as the 2023 season starts, we pose the question to all IFL Phans with credentials to answer:

    Is he the best ever???


    In all fairness we'll bring the competition to light...

    For yardage gained there's only the Untouchable, Sherman Jarvis, at 16,728 mostly at the hands of one, Gene Hamilton (rocked everywhere but Dakota: Note from Tobias Stanfield: "Please stop ruining great QBs late career stats, DG!") ... Chris Andrews is sure to pass "Shake" but is highly unlikely to pass SJ on the All-Time List.

    For TDs: The All-Talented and previously mentioned Chris Andrews of Tulsa fame. Andrews has shred defenses to pieces on route to an outstanding career. He stands poised to break many, many, IFL receiving records.




    But of course support the Post's Man-of-the-Hour, Arnold "Shake" Greene...





    3 Time IFL Bowl Starting Champion, 4 Time IFL Bowl Starter. Do Rings count for anything in today's IFL?



    1790 Post-Season yards (1st All-Time)

    12 Post-Season TDs (1st All-Time)

    570 Post-Season YAC (1st All-Time)


    9 - 100+ Yards Gained, Post-Season Games (1st All-Time)


    In the interest of honest voting (should success be punished?): 670 Post-Season Targets (1st All-Time)









    EDITOR'S NOTE: 1.1 pick Don Gomez and sneaky (at the time) 2nd round "POP score pick" (remember that cheat???) Jermaine Doeber get an extra year in the "battle of the 2011s", yet will still fall very short. I put this out there because I found/find it interesting that a few FOFC vets chose Doeber as the pick of the WR class that year despite Greene's great combines AND bars and I knew there was something going on yet I got "just a feeling" as a response to what I witnessed. Phantoms Ophice and Phans have always been "straight up" and "balls out" with our knowledge/responses to questions from Phans.
    8
    Yes
    50.00%
    4
    No
    50.00%
    4

    The poll is expired.

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  • #2
    only voted no so it would not be unaminous

    good read
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Kobeck View Post
      only voted no so it would not be unaminous

      good read
      Not understanding your reasoning but could've used the vote in what I think, based on Chris Andrews, will be a tough poll to win.

      Thanks for voting nonetheless.
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      • #4
        I withdraw my vote
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        • #5
          he is the best we've seen so far. always had a QB to get him the ball and he took full advantage.
          NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
          DE JUSTIN JONES
          LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
          TE THOMAS MACOMBER
          LT IRWIN KAO
          WR ANDREW ROBEY
          SS GREGORY BOYD
          RB ALAN CRESPO
          G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
          WR WALTER WALKER
          G AMOS BAILEY
          QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
          RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
          WR JOSE HOOVER
          K BUTCH SCHULZ
          LB MACK EDWARDS
          DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
          WR JESSE LUCAS
          C NORMAN ENRIGHT
          SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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          • #6
            Originally posted by Matt View Post
            he is the best we've seen so far. always had a QB to get him the ball and he took full advantage.
            I've always viewed a QB as a GM's #1 responsibility. Hopefully when the Phantoms transition from Amos to another high-quality QB the league will phinally eliminate "luck" phrom the equation... Not attributing the "luck" mentioning to you, just something that was mentioned about Stanfield, and then about Amos, and hopephully dies down by the 3rd round - if not I don't know if we/IFL will be around in another 13 years for me to do it again.
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            • #7
              the IFL will survive without doubt
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              • #8
                I never said anything about luck. You've done an amazing job of solidifying the QB position through the past 20 IFL seasons. I'm hoping I've done the same thing, though to a lesser extent. You've always had better recievers and I've had the better backs. Hopefully we can grab the helm atop the nc east by next season.......but by that point I will be trying to re-tool the most difficult position to fill.....WR
                NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
                DE JUSTIN JONES
                LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
                TE THOMAS MACOMBER
                LT IRWIN KAO
                WR ANDREW ROBEY
                SS GREGORY BOYD
                RB ALAN CRESPO
                G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
                WR WALTER WALKER
                G AMOS BAILEY
                QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
                RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
                WR JOSE HOOVER
                K BUTCH SCHULZ
                LB MACK EDWARDS
                DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
                WR JESSE LUCAS
                C NORMAN ENRIGHT
                SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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                • #9
                  I voted no.
                  I would say he is the best postseason WR of all time. But not the best Willoverall.
                  Andrews is doing what he is doing while sharing receiving duties with another HOF WR.
                  Andrews will set a ton of records. He will have better regular season stats is those categories you mentioned above.

                  Sorry, but no.
                  IFL Champions-- 2016
                  NC Champions-- 2015, 2016
                  NC South Division Champions-- XI 2013-2023
                  IFL EoY-- 2013, 2016


                  Tigerhawk Hall of Fame:
                  LT Tony Esqueda, MLB Eric Jean, RDE Ted Lofton, CB Oliver McKenzie, RB Ken "DH" Singleton, WR Ken "Brick" Albriktsen, RT Brock Heath, QB Matt Sanford

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                  • #10
                    Kinda flawed logic right there. You could say Greene did more with less (help).
                    2003,2004,2007,2008,2010,2013,2024,2025,2031,2037, 2038 and 2039 NC North Division Champions, 2012 and 2017 Wild Card
                    2004 Imperial Football League Champions
                    2008 NC Champions
                    Demons Ring of Honor-QB Will Irby (HOF), CB Neal "The Real Deal" Ferguson, RB Charles Bell, K Paul Pickett, FS Robert Poole, RG Leonard Becker, TE Brenden Fields, C Seth Stender, LB Adam Kollars (HOF), LB Louis McCarthy (HOF), C James Robinson (HOF), RB Carlton Dabrowa (HOF)
                    Demons Retired Numbers- #11 (QB Will Irby-HOF), #55 (C James Robinson-HOF), #20 (RB Carlton Dabrowa-HOF), #56 (LB Louis McCarthy-HOF), #57 (LB Adam Kollars-HOF)

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by tarcone View Post
                      I would say he is the best postseason WR of all time.
                      Post-season games are undeniably against good, if not great, talent. Regular season stats can be semi-easily stacked in easy-to-sacrifice-situations against great teams, and very easily stacked in many situations against weaker teams.

                      But Andrews can't be dismissed so I merely counter-debate above.
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