Rumor Mill

[Rumor Mill]

Effect of Blitzing on the result:

Blitz		Pass	Run
No blitz		6.67 	3.96 
Blitz 1		7.04 	4.53 
Blitz 2		6.90 	4.40 
Blitz 3		8.69 	4.68 
All Blitzes	7.04 	4.51

[Rumor Mill]

Here are the yardage results for each defensive formation, defensive coverage, and defensive call. The formatting is off here, but if you want to look at it in Excel just copy and paste it.

43	2-Deep	Run - Normal	354	2534	7.16 	480	1694	3.53 
43	2-Deep	Run - Aggressive	257	1801	7.01 	354	1099	3.10 
43	2-Deep	Pass - Normal	291	2097	7.21 	319	1334	4.18 
43	2-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	96	577	6.01 	78	412	5.28 
43	3-Deep	Run - Normal	310	2350	7.58 	398	1295	3.25 
43	3-Deep	Run - Aggressive	243	2028	8.35 	303	972	3.21 
43	3-Deep	Pass - Normal	273	1978	7.25 	275	1239	4.51 
43	3-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	86	485	5.64 	75	501	6.68 
43	4-Deep	Run - Normal	219	1899	8.67 	311	1171	3.77 
43	4-Deep	Run - Aggressive	175	1587	9.07 	221	715	3.24 
43	4-Deep	Pass - Normal	200	1444	7.22 	224	1069	4.77 
43	4-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	55	408	7.42 	66	279	4.23 
43	Loose	Run - Normal	583	4444	7.62 	864	2980	3.45 
43	Loose	Run - Aggressive	523	3866	7.39 	647	1933	2.99 
43	Loose	Pass - Normal	516	3427	6.64 	512	2192	4.28 
43	Loose	Pass - Aggressive	140	972	6.94 	175	818	4.67 
43	Bump & Run	Run - Normal	554	3514	6.34 	802	2627	3.28 
43	Bump & Run	Run - Aggressive	481	3492	7.26 	611	1903	3.11 
43	Bump & Run	Pass - Normal	554	4114	7.43 	535	2267	4.24 
43	Bump & Run	Pass - Aggressive	127	855	6.73 	174	799	4.59 
43 Nickel	2-Deep	Pass - Normal	234	1639	7.00 	171	867	5.07 
43 Nickel	2-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	183	1258	6.87 	140	816	5.83 
43 Nickel	3-Deep	Pass - Normal	201	1382	6.88 	156	730	4.68 
43 Nickel	3-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	164	1041	6.35 	123	713	5.80 
43 Nickel	4-Deep	Pass - Normal	218	1433	6.57 	178	833	4.68 
43 Nickel	4-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	128	900	7.03 	97	524	5.40 
43 Nickel	Loose	Pass - Normal	408	2289	5.61 	291	1516	5.21 
43 Nickel	Loose	Pass - Aggressive	324	1988	6.14 	218	1269	5.82 
43 Nickel	Bump & Run	Pass - Normal	352	2028	5.76 	247	1356	5.49 
43 Nickel	Bump & Run	Pass - Aggressive	280	1727	6.17 	201	1212	6.03 
43 Dime	2-Deep	Pass - Normal	80	594	7.43 	52	287	5.52 
43 Dime	2-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	137	893	6.52 	74	415	5.61 
43 Dime	3-Deep	Pass - Normal	76	619	8.14 	50	242	4.84 
43 Dime	3-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	148	880	5.95 	54	428	7.93 
43 Dime	4-Deep	Pass - Normal	84	566	6.74 	39	235	6.03 
43 Dime	4-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	152	800	5.26 	81	499	6.16 
43 Dime	Loose	Pass - Normal	168	1044	6.21 	102	613	6.01 
43 Dime	Loose	Pass - Aggressive	293	1708	5.83 	169	1063	6.29 
43 Dime	Bump & Run	Pass - Normal	96	441	4.59 	59	332	5.63 
43 Dime	Bump & Run	Pass - Aggressive	198	1105	5.58 	99	600	6.06 
34	2-Deep	Run - Normal	239	1691	7.08 	322	1162	3.61 
34	2-Deep	Run - Aggressive	198	1480	7.47 	266	726	2.73 
34	2-Deep	Pass - Normal	224	1454	6.49 	216	1012	4.69 
34	2-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	52	335	6.44 	58	303	5.22 
34	3-Deep	Run - Normal	172	1262	7.34 	237	736	3.11 
34	3-Deep	Run - Aggressive	168	1408	8.38 	185	581	3.14 
34	3-Deep	Pass - Normal	165	1161	7.04 	143	608	4.25 
34	3-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	54	391	7.24 	42	197	4.69 
34	4-Deep	Run - Normal	114	809	7.10 	145	504	3.48 
34	4-Deep	Run - Aggressive	88	592	6.73 	109	385	3.53 
34	4-Deep	Pass - Normal	101	585	5.79 	104	519	4.99 
34	4-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	28	226	8.07 	24	125	5.21 
34	Loose	Run - Normal	203	1215	5.99 	302	945	3.13 
34	Loose	Run - Aggressive	212	1545	7.29 	239	801	3.35 
34	Loose	Pass - Normal	188	1194	6.35 	211	947	4.49 
34	Loose	Pass - Aggressive	49	290	5.92 	59	291	4.93 
34	Bump & Run	Run - Normal	427	3067	7.18 	632	1833	2.90 
34	Bump & Run	Run - Aggressive	398	2827	7.10 	446	1321	2.96 
34	Bump & Run	Pass - Normal	406	2620	6.45 	388	1493	3.85 
34	Bump & Run	Pass - Aggressive	113	837	7.41 	135	648	4.80 
34 Nickel	2-Deep	Pass - Normal	146	782	5.36 	104	572	5.50 
34 Nickel	2-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	136	962	7.07 	74	397	5.36 
34 Nickel	3-Deep	Pass - Normal	140	972	6.94 	81	378	4.67 
34 Nickel	3-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	111	780	7.03 	56	298	5.32 
34 Nickel	4-Deep	Pass - Normal	110	650	5.91 	72	298	4.14 
34 Nickel	4-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	75	424	5.65 	54	288	5.33 
34 Nickel	Loose	Pass - Normal	167	1063	6.37 	114	513	4.50 
34 Nickel	Loose	Pass - Aggressive	125	697	5.58 	78	332	4.26 
34 Nickel	Bump & Run	Pass - Normal	214	1388	6.49 	161	959	5.96 
34 Nickel	Bump & Run	Pass - Aggressive	185	938	5.07 	144	924	6.42 
34 Dime	2-Deep	Pass - Normal	54	311	5.76 	20	107	5.35 
34 Dime	2-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	110	625	5.68 	46	250	5.43 
34 Dime	3-Deep	Pass - Normal	56	312	5.57 	24	115	4.79 
34 Dime	3-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	95	655	6.89 	49	201	4.10 
34 Dime	4-Deep	Pass - Normal	57	416	7.30 	21	81	3.86 
34 Dime	4-Deep	Pass - Aggressive	79	349	4.42 	31	256	8.26 
34 Dime	Loose	Pass - Normal	69	371	5.38 	29	148	5.10 
34 Dime	Loose	Pass - Aggressive	102	679	6.66 	67	388	5.79 
34 Dime	Bump & Run	Pass - Normal	79	430	5.44 	51	301	5.90 
34 Dime	Bump & Run	Pass - Aggressive	155	1088	7.02 	80	414	5.18

[Rumor Mill]

Former Houston coach Dominic Hamrahi was fired after 2 dissapointing seasons amid allegations that he was not using RB Wilford Timmerman as much as he should. Here is a chart of the percentage of rushes of the top rated RB's in the league as compared to their backup. (only RB's that started 16 games)

		Carries	Backup	%
Shutz		347	79	81.5%
Webb		356	90	79.8%
Rodrigez	340	116	74.6%
Crosby		288	105	73.3%
Timmerman	291	115	71.7%
Tart		292	123	70.4%
Connell	324	153	67.9%

Timmerman's carries were below the average but not by very much. The game that Timmerman rushed 6 times, St.Clair passed the ball 47 times. The solution to Timmerman's low carries may be to run the ball more.

[Jave]

Timmerman's carries were below the average but not by very much. The game that Timmerman rushed 6 times, St.Clair passed the ball 47 times. The solution to Timmerman's low carries may be to run the ball more.

ROFL...................................OWNED!!!!

[SteveBsFan]

Former Houston coach Dominic Hamrahi was fired after 2 dissapointing seasons amid allegations that he was not using RB Wilford Timmerman as much as he should. Here is a chart of the percentage of rushes of the top rated RB's in the league as compared to their backup. (only RB's that started 16 games)

		Carries	Backup	%
Shutz		347	79	81.5%
Webb		356	90	79.8%
Rodrigez	340	116	74.6%
Crosby		288	105	73.3%
Timmerman	291	115	71.7%
Tart		292	123	70.4%
Connell	324	153	67.9%

Timmerman's carries were below the average but not by very much. The game that Timmerman rushed 6 times, St.Clair passed the ball 47 times. The solution to Timmerman's low carries may be to run the ball more.

FYI, the biggest reason was the penalties, and his discipline rating dropped so it was probably going to be more of the same this season.

Also, regarding the 6 carry game, and many of his low carry games, there is little I can do when I set the gameplan to run a certain % in certain situations, and the coach calls passing plays.

What bothered me about teh RB situation was on a game by game basis. Some games it was perfect, other games questionable. Using 71.7% as the benchmark, I looked at the games under that amount..

Game 2 - 52% (L 17-20)
Game 4 - 53% (W 27-7)
Game 8 - 70% (W 23-13)
Game 9 - 48% (L 9-27)
Game 10 - 32% (L 9-34) *fake punt from own 45 on 4th and 14*
Game 11 - 59% (L 16-19)
Game 12 - 70% (W 27-16)
Game 14 - 50% (L 17-20)
Game 15 - 65% (W 27-17)
Game 16 - 47% (L 6-7)

So in 10 out of 16 games we were under that 71% mark, and in only 4 games were we over the 71% mark

Game 1 - 72% (W 20-16)
Game 5 - 88% (L 13-25)
Game 6 - 78% (W 15-9)
Game 7 - 76% (L 23-24)

Two games were at the 71% mark

Game 3 - 71% (L 13-26)
Game 13 - 71% (L 14-21)

Just too inconsistent for me. 1/2 of my over 71% games were wins.

Solution? Run more?

I had 5 games where I ran over 50% of the time...

Game 4 - 55% run - 53% timmerman
Game 11 - 62% run - 59% timmerman
Game 12 - 59% run - 70% timmerman
Game 15 - 61% run - 65% timmerman
Game 16 - 69% run - 47% timmerman

So running the ball more didn't get Timmerman more carries. The games were he got 75% or more of the carries, the overall run % of each game was (31%, 46%, 46%).

Overall, I see no consistent pattern there. Run more? Timmerman gets less carries. Run less? he gets low carries. My best bet was running around 40%-49% of my plays, then he gets the benchmark of carries (roughly 70-71% ish)

[Rumor Mill]

Using 71.7% as the benchmark, I looked at the games under that amount..

Game 2 - 52% (L 17-20)
Game 4 - 53% (W 27-7)
Game 8 - 70% (W 23-13)
Game 9 - 48% (L 9-27)
Game 10 - 32% (L 9-34) *fake punt from own 45 on 4th and 14*
Game 11 - 59% (L 16-19)
Game 12 - 70% (W 27-16)
Game 14 - 50% (L 17-20)
Game 15 - 65% (W 27-17)
Game 16 - 47% (L 6-7)

So in 10 out of 16 games we were under that 71% mark, and in only 4 games were we over the 71% mark

Game 1 - 72% (W 20-16)
Game 5 - 88% (L 13-25)
Game 6 - 78% (W 15-9)
Game 7 - 76% (L 23-24)

Two games were at the 71% mark

Game 3 - 71% (L 13-26)
Game 13 - 71% (L 14-21)

Just too inconsistent for me. 1/2 of my over 71% games were wins.

The 71% value was just comparing the starter to the backup RB, not the starter to all runs by the team. The reason was to keep QB scrambles, FB runs, reverses, etc, from influencing the results. Timmerman had more than 71% in half the games, and less than 71% in half the games.

[SteveBsFan]

The 71% value was just comparing the starter to the backup RB, not the starter to all runs by the team. The reason was to keep QB scrambles, FB runs, reverses, etc, from influencing the results. Timmerman had more than 71% in half the games, and less than 71% in half the games.

Well, as pointed out, simply running more didn't guarantee him more carries. Only once out of the games I ran more than passed did Timmerman pass the 70% mark in carries. Was it because I won? Well 3 games later I win by a similar score, ran more, and Timmerman didn't even crack 70%.

I know all games are different, but watching every single one, I saw extremely questionable decisions that don't just show up in boxscores. A backup running back can get 5 carries to the main's 25, but if those 5 came early in the game in random situations which killed scoring drives, that hurts later in the game. There have been a few times my backup has opened a half, or opened a qtr with multiple carries in a row, all in tight games.

[dberner30]

I dont know how smart the AI is programmed by Jim. I have my doubts that he really understands football all that well. But consider this: Some teams go by possessions when using the b/u RB. So the starter gets 2 or 3 possessions and then the b/u gets one etc. That could account for some of the crazy shit your talking about. I doubt that the AI looks at it like that though.

It could just be the blind squirrel finding a nut.

[MrBigglesworth]

I'm also not sure if the AI is smart enough to determine when drive killing time is. I know that Daughterty used to come in near the end of drives and fumble inside the red zone, which is why I drafted Long. Maybe it's a genius move: if you have to decide when to give a RB carries, could make sense to give your RB that can break a long one at any time more carries further from the goalline.

[SteveBsFan]

I tried to paste the yardage results for defensive formations into excel, but it didn't work. Paste special didn't work either. Is there a certain way to do it?

Also, what are the figures?

pass att, yard, avg, run att, yard, avg?

Thanks!