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    by Bid Daddy Lumpkin
    Draft Junkie

    The Phantoms appear to checked off a great many things on their list of team needs this draft:

    1.5) RDE to fill in a hole in what will now make a bid to be the best DLine in the IFL
    1.23) RG who should play by midseason and take the first steps towards removing the Phantoms bid for the worst OLine in the IFL
    3.5) RT who could end up starting but most likely will be career backup - gamble based on need
    3.23) MLB to learn behind newly apointed mentor Aaron Wilson
    3.25) CB (SS in college) to provide depth and groom behind Lenhart. Strong Affinity with CB mentor!
    4-22) RDE to provide depth
    4-23) SLB to provide future depth after Tim Beatty retires.
    5-23) DT depth
    6-13) DT depth

    I'll be doing individual write-ups if anybody's interested (or if I'm just feeling overly IFLish ) but the man to watch is 3rd round pick Clarence Stanton a safety out of Florida who will immediately be switched to CB and projects quite well at the position. Said GM Jester Blaze upon first viewing tapes of Stanton, "That dude's too athletic to be a safety!". (Side note: Lenny Kenny, soon to be in a Lansing uniform, was said to be the back-up plan if Stanton was selected by the 89th pick.) Rumor has it that Stanton and recently aquired CB mentor Eric Ferry are already getting along great! Enhanced by the fact this draft was apparantly very weak at the true CB position, many teams with CB problems will be wondering "what if?" in 3 seasons when Clarence is a legit IFL starter.

    As the story goes the draft room of the Phantoms was holding their collective breath after taking Sedrick Stevenson with pick 3-23. "We had to really look at Newark's roster and make an educated guess on who they wouldn't take of our 2 guys", said GM Jester Blaze. "We REALLY wanted Clarence but thought Sedrick had a higher probability of being taken by Newark and the thought of him coming against us for two games per season instead of being with us wasn't pleasant. We gambled and it worked out!"

    Well, it hasn't worked out yet. Only time will tell that...

    *** RANDOM DRAFT THOUGHTS ***

    Picking at #5: Picking at #5, while something I'd love to do every season, has a negative side. For one, nothing falls to 5. You get what's supposed to be there at 5. The top 3-4 picks of the draft usually go exactly as the list of graded players goes. Out of 31 "other teams", someone is going to be willing to trade up if the team in the top 3-4 doesn't want the the best player available. So you take what's there and hope he pans out, at which point you merely broke even... if he plummets then you've managed to give yourself a tighter salary cap for the next 5-6 seasons for nothing. So, you pay a high price (the #5 pick can always net something great in a trade) for a gamble which you can tie or lose... not a gambling mans dream. On the other hand there's....

    Late 3rd rounders: I love late 3rd round picks! There are a lot of what I think of as "two and half round players", players who when the 3rd round comes around are still on the board and you wonder why until you look back at the 2nd round and see why... but they just seem to be better than what should be available at that point. I would say the biggest dropoff in draft attendance might be after teams' round 2 picks, when the value picks, although still there, are hidden amongst many other players who, if looked at by overall ratings, look similar. The ratio of time invested per best gamble pick goes way up and some GM's won't/can't invest it. Very good players can come out of the end of the 3rd round and they'll all be cheap contracts! So in the late 3rd for your moderate price of entry (a late 3rd isn't going to net you much in a trade) you get a gamble, which if you've done your research, has a very favorable chance to win, if you break even covers a back-up or lesser roster role, and if you lose only costs you only about $200k I believe in signing bonus after cutting player.
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  • #2
    Good write up!

    I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:

    It's going to be a good year again in the NFC East
    NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
    DE JUSTIN JONES
    LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
    TE THOMAS MACOMBER
    LT IRWIN KAO
    WR ANDREW ROBEY
    SS GREGORY BOYD
    RB ALAN CRESPO
    G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
    WR WALTER WALKER
    G AMOS BAILEY
    QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
    RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
    WR JOSE HOOVER
    K BUTCH SCHULZ
    LB MACK EDWARDS
    DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
    WR JESSE LUCAS
    C NORMAN ENRIGHT
    SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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    • #3
      Re: Phantoms draft review and random draft thoughts...

      Originally posted by LawrencePhantoms
      Late 3rd rounders: I love late 3rd round picks! There are a lot of what I think of as "two and half round players", players who when the 3rd round comes around are still on the board and you wonder why until you look back at the 2nd round and see why... but they just seem to be better than what should be available at that point. I would say the biggest dropoff in draft attendance might be after teams' round 2 picks, when the value picks, although still there, are hidden amongst many other players who, if looked at by overall ratings, look similar. The ratio of time invested per best gamble pick goes way up and some GM's won't/can't invest it. Very good players can come out of the end of the 3rd round and they'll all be cheap contracts! So in the late 3rd for your moderate price of entry (a late 3rd isn't going to net you much in a trade) you get a gamble, which if you've done your research, has a very favorable chance to win, if you break even covers a back-up or lesser roster role, and if you lose only costs you only about $200k I believe in signing bonus after cutting player.
      Shhhhh! Don't tell anyone that!

      Last year Jim Hickman was a 3rd round pick. This year, I think I got two solid players in the third round, one of which would start had I not picked up Jamison last year. Deron Markel would probably have fallen into the 3rd round this year, had I not picked him up at 2.27 (I think some one would have taken him early in the 3rd round had I not done so).

      2003 IFL AC East Runner-Up - Wildcard 10-6
      2004 IFL AC East Runner-UP - Wildcard - AC Runner-up 10-5-1
      2005 3rd Place AC East 6-10 2007 2nd Place AC East 8-8
      2006 3rd Place AC East 7-9 2008 2nd Place AC East 9-7
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Matt
        Good write up!

        I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:

        It's going to be a good year again in the NFC East
        Yeah, Aliabadi was an absolute steal in the 4th!

        2003 IFL AC East Runner-Up - Wildcard 10-6
        2004 IFL AC East Runner-UP - Wildcard - AC Runner-up 10-5-1
        2005 3rd Place AC East 6-10 2007 2nd Place AC East 8-8
        2006 3rd Place AC East 7-9 2008 2nd Place AC East 9-7
        2009 1st Place AC East, Imperial Bowl Champions 13-3

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Warhammer
          Originally posted by Matt
          Good write up!

          I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:

          It's going to be a good year again in the NFC East
          Yeah, Aliabadi was an absolute steal in the 4th!

          4.22 (118) LAW - RDE Gus Clark
          4.23 (119) LAW - SLB Lance Aliabadi
          4.24 (120) NWK - TE O.J. Peltier
          4.25 (121) VER - LCB Lonnie Randle

          All 4 of those players were on my pref list. Clark, Aliabadi, and Randle were 1,2, and 3. I got my 4th choise at 4,29.
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          2007 AC North Division Champions
          2008 AC North Division Champions
          2009 AC North Division Champions
          2010 AC North Division Champions
          2010 American Conference Champions

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          • #6
            Originally posted by roadrash
            Originally posted by Warhammer
            Originally posted by Matt
            Good write up!

            I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:

            It's going to be a good year again in the NFC East
            Yeah, Aliabadi was an absolute steal in the 4th!

            4.22 (118) LAW - RDE Gus Clark
            4.23 (119) LAW - SLB Lance Aliabadi
            4.24 (120) NWK - TE O.J. Peltier
            4.25 (121) VER - LCB Lonnie Randle

            All 4 of those players were on my pref list. Clark, Aliabadi, and Randle were 1,2, and 3. I got my 4th choise at 4,29.
            I wanted to take Peltier at 4.19, but everyone started taking all the 50+ pot. guards, so I had to move Sales up on my draft board. :roll:

            2003 IFL AC East Runner-Up - Wildcard 10-6
            2004 IFL AC East Runner-UP - Wildcard - AC Runner-up 10-5-1
            2005 3rd Place AC East 6-10 2007 2nd Place AC East 8-8
            2006 3rd Place AC East 7-9 2008 2nd Place AC East 9-7
            2009 1st Place AC East, Imperial Bowl Champions 13-3

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            • #7
              Originally posted by roadrash
              Originally posted by Warhammer
              Originally posted by Matt
              Good write up!

              I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:

              It's going to be a good year again in the NFC East
              Yeah, Aliabadi was an absolute steal in the 4th!

              4.22 (118) LAW - RDE Gus Clark
              4.23 (119) LAW - SLB Lance Aliabadi
              4.24 (120) NWK - TE O.J. Peltier
              4.25 (121) VER - LCB Lonnie Randle

              All 4 of those players were on my pref list. Clark, Aliabadi, and Randle were 1,2, and 3. I got my 4th choise at 4,29.
              Yeah, O.J. Peltier is the only player that I drafted that I really like.
              NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
              DE JUSTIN JONES
              LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
              TE THOMAS MACOMBER
              LT IRWIN KAO
              WR ANDREW ROBEY
              SS GREGORY BOYD
              RB ALAN CRESPO
              G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
              WR WALTER WALKER
              G AMOS BAILEY
              QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
              RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
              WR JOSE HOOVER
              K BUTCH SCHULZ
              LB MACK EDWARDS
              DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
              WR JESSE LUCAS
              C NORMAN ENRIGHT
              SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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              • #8
                Originally posted by Matt
                Originally posted by roadrash
                Originally posted by Warhammer
                Originally posted by Matt
                Good write up!

                I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:

                It's going to be a good year again in the NFC East
                Yeah, Aliabadi was an absolute steal in the 4th!

                4.22 (118) LAW - RDE Gus Clark
                4.23 (119) LAW - SLB Lance Aliabadi
                4.24 (120) NWK - TE O.J. Peltier
                4.25 (121) VER - LCB Lonnie Randle

                All 4 of those players were on my pref list. Clark, Aliabadi, and Randle were 1,2, and 3. I got my 4th choise at 4,29.
                Yeah, O.J. Peltier is the only player that I drafted that I really like.
                I had him below Randle, and belwo the guy I took. But that is because I already have a stud TE, and don't use two TEs much.
                2005 AC North Division Champions
                2007 AC North Division Champions
                2008 AC North Division Champions
                2009 AC North Division Champions
                2010 AC North Division Champions
                2010 American Conference Champions

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                • #9
                  Y'all can have the late thirds, I like the mid to late firsts. Relatively low cap hit, real good potential at key positions.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Matt
                    Good write up!

                    I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:
                    So I guessed right letting Clarence slide to 3-25!! I had you pegged as possibly taking Stevenson to eventually replace Domingo, who should've retired!!

                    In other NFC East LB drafting news Vermont's OLB towards the end of the 2nd was tops on my board at the time but I got too cute trying to trade my 2nds to Little Rock while still get him later in the round and ended up losing out.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MrBigglesworth
                      Y'all can have the late thirds, I like the mid to late firsts. Relatively low cap hit, real good potential at key positions.
                      Yeah, but the asking price for those mid-round firsts are too high. I would rather stock up on 3rd rounders to get good depth, with the odd boom.

                      2003 IFL AC East Runner-Up - Wildcard 10-6
                      2004 IFL AC East Runner-UP - Wildcard - AC Runner-up 10-5-1
                      2005 3rd Place AC East 6-10 2007 2nd Place AC East 8-8
                      2006 3rd Place AC East 7-9 2008 2nd Place AC East 9-7
                      2009 1st Place AC East, Imperial Bowl Champions 13-3

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LawrencePhantoms
                        Originally posted by Matt
                        Good write up!

                        I really wanted Sedrick Stevenson and Lance Aliabadi, but you drafted both these guys right before me :evil:
                        So I guessed right letting Clarence slide to 3-25!! I had you pegged as possibly taking Stevenson to eventually replace Domingo, who should've retired!!

                        In other NFC East LB drafting news Vermont's OLB towards the end of the 2nd was tops on my board at the time but I got too cute trying to trade my 2nds to Little Rock while still get him later in the round and ended up losing out.
                        Yeah, Domingo should've retired, and you did guess right
                        NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
                        DE JUSTIN JONES
                        LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
                        TE THOMAS MACOMBER
                        LT IRWIN KAO
                        WR ANDREW ROBEY
                        SS GREGORY BOYD
                        RB ALAN CRESPO
                        G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
                        WR WALTER WALKER
                        G AMOS BAILEY
                        QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
                        RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
                        WR JOSE HOOVER
                        K BUTCH SCHULZ
                        LB MACK EDWARDS
                        DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
                        WR JESSE LUCAS
                        C NORMAN ENRIGHT
                        SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MrBigglesworth
                          Y'all can have the late thirds, I like the mid to late firsts. Relatively low cap hit, real good potential at key positions.
                          You're statement assists my point. 3rd rounders aren't hard to come by so if you can find the talent you can consistently help your team. Good luck finding someone that'll say...
                          Y'all can have the mid to late firsts.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LawrencePhantoms
                            Good luck finding someone that'll say...
                            Y'all can have the mid to late firsts.
                            I have the luck already, I've had 5 of them the past two years.
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                            Pittsburgh Power NC North Champs: 2005, 2006, 2009

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MrBigglesworth
                              Originally posted by LawrencePhantoms
                              Good luck finding someone that'll say...
                              Y'all can have the mid to late firsts.
                              I have the luck already, I've had 5 of them the past two years.
                              And I'll bet you gave up a lot more to get them than I gave up for my 3rds. Giving up good value for something is not my version of someone saying "Y'all can have it".


                              The total current/future of your 3 first round picks acording to my scout: 92/188

                              The total current/future of my 3 third round picks according to my scout: 69/168 (67/178 on my PC after I change my SS to CB)

                              Of course your players appear to be better... they're 1st round picks. But each of your players will cost about or more than the total of my 3 if I'm correct on the pricing of rookies. You end up with players about 130%/110% the ratings of my players with about 300% the contract! :shock:

                              Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with your specific picks or late 1st round picks in general, just that I feel the 3rd round is a great value round.
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