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  • Suicane...you have been trumped!

    Im not talkin about attitudes, they both have piss poor attitudes. Im talking about what they do on the field and what they bring to their teams in their respective positions. Owens is head and shoulders above Moss.
    Let the debate begin: Moss or Owens?


    Since you wouldn't believe me:

    The two best receivers in the NFL match up this weekend in a battle of two men revered on the field for touchdowns waiting to happen and off the field as the two most sought after interviewees in all the land.

    So which is the better player? Who would those inside the NFL rather have on their squad?

    FOXSports.com put together a 12-member panel made up of five head coaches, three general managers and four personnel directors and asked them that seemingly answerless question: "T.O. or Moss and why?"

    The poll is set, the ballots are in, and we have the answer.

    Drumroll please ... more drums ... more drums ...

    The winner of our T.O. vs. Moss derby is ...

    Randy Moss by an overwhelming majority decision. In fact, of our 12-member panel a whopping eight selected Moss as the receiver they would rather have.

    First, let's summarize the scouting reports that the two opposing viewpoints have given regarding the two sensational threats.

    Nearly everyone had the same breakdown of the two receivers — Moss is the deep threat and constant TD threat whereas T.O. works the whole field and is a better blocker. Those who voted for Moss, however, believed his deep-ball-TD threat was simply too much to pass up.

    "I think Moss keeps people from sleeping at night," said one NFC GM of Moss' effect on defensive coaches. "His ability to change games instantly and the constant threat are what separates him. A whole game can change instantly because of him."

    "No comparison, it's Moss," said one NFC head coach. "He's a touchdown waiting to happen. We had to play him a bunch of times and aahhh, he drives a defensive coordinator crazy. That home run threat hangs over your head all game long."

    Those who chose T.O. offer up his ability as an all-around receiver over Moss' deep ball ability.

    "You can do more things with him on offense," said one AFC head coach on why he chose Owens. "The other guy isn't a real good pattern runner. Downfield, you have to have a QB who can get him the ball. At the end of the day when you roll up on him and he doesn't get the ball early he's done

    "Terrell knows how to run routes. The other guy may have more talent than T.O. but at the end of the day you can take him out of his game faster than you can T.O. T.O., it doesn't matter what you do he's going to find a way to make a play at any point of the game."

    "He's a bigger weapon than Moss," said one personnel director. "Moss is down the field but how many times do you see him go across the middle? T.O. has change-up routes. If you limit Moss's deep routes you limit what he can do. You have to defend more field when you play against T.O."

    While Moss doesn't have the underneath skills that Owens possesses, his deep ball threat opens things up down low for the rest of the offense.


    Randy Moss is a much better deep threat than Terrell Owens. (Jed Jacobsohn / Getty Images)

    "He changes the way safeties play more than T.O. does," said a personnel director. "That affects the run game a lot more than T.O. does."

    Perhaps the most intriguing aspect of our poll was the viewpoint our panelists held in terms of off-the-field and locker room issues. To a man, every person said Moss was easier to deal with than Owens.

    "T.O. to me is more difficult to manage because he's more vocal than the other guy," said one head coach. "The other guy if you get him his balls, you won't hear him talking a lot. But T.O. always has something going down. He has to create attention to himself in order for him to be happy. The other guy may do crazy stuff but he doesn't do that. T.O. can disrupt your team."

    Wow! What a difference a year makes. Had the same question been asked prior to Owens' off-season and preseason soap opera, nearly everyone would probably have said they'd take the Eagle over the Viking who walked off the field before a game had ended. How can you guys be so short-sighted?

    "When things are going bad for your team I think T.O. can be a little bit more disruptive than Randy," insisted another panel member. "The walking off the field thing stunk but you really don't hear Randy call out his teammates in public. You've seen him in some arguments but every receiver thinks they are wide open all the time. You never hear Randy question people's integrity and toughness but you do hear that with T.O."


    Terrell Owens is viewed as a better all-around receiver than Randy Moss. (Jamie Squire / Getty Images)

    That's not to say Moss doesn't have his quirks. In fact, one head coach says that Moss has the potential to be the greatest playmaker who ever lived if he just followed the measuring stick for great wideouts.

    "If he had half the work ethic of Jerry Rice, he'd easily be able to become the greatest receiver who ever lived and I don't know that anybody would catch him. Even with that he is the closest thing to Barry Sanders that we have in the game today."

    For those who voted for Owens, his complete game was his strongest attribute. Blocking, too, goes a long way.

    "T.O. gives you a lot more toughness," said another head coach. "With Moss you are playing with 10 guys on some running plays whereas T.O. blocks."

    Let's round out our panelists' discussion with a few more scouting reports from the viewpoint of our experts.

    AFC head coach: "(Moss) gives you fits because he scares you so much at all points of the game. It doesn't matter when, he's that threat sitting there."

    NFC head coach: "I thought watching T.O. play last year, he made a lot of strides by playing through a painful injury. Then he pulled that @$# this year and it went out the window. But I'd still take him over Randy with that. I've seen the other guy shut it down. We beat on him when we played them and you can get him to shut it down. T.O. won't shut it down."

    Personnel director: "I'd take Terrell because he shows up every week. He can do more things and I think he's tougher than Moss. He blocks better, he's bigger, he's stronger. He may not be as talented all-around but he's the better overall player. You can throw across the middle and you won't have to worry about alligator arms.

    Personnel director: "I think if you compare character you'd actually lean toward Moss as a less disruptive force. They are both game changers but Moss has a little bit more ability because of his down the field threat. T.O. is more of a pure West Coast receiver. T.O. is a better runner after the catch but Moss has the edge down the field and he scares people more than T.O. That's not to say T.O. isn't a deep threat. Both prepare better than people may give them credit for. If you are a pure West Coast team you would have to consider T.O. over Moss but overall I'd take Moss.

    AFC GM: "I'd take Moss. When you play against both of them Moss creates more of a scare in you from a defensive point of view and a speed factor and the end zone factor. He creates more fear in the defense."

    Taken from this article:



    http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4899260


  • #2
    That's one small sample size, Jave.
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    • #3
      First off, good to see ya active again Jeff. But............

      FOXSports.com put together a 12-member panel made up of five head coaches, three general managers and four personnel directors
      Thats a pretty good sample IMO.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jeff
        That's one small sample size, Jave.

        12 out of 5 billion is certianly big enough I'd think. :P

        I'd take T.O. and am not a fan of either. I have no stake in this debate.
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        • #5
          Well if Fox's expert panel is anything like the Experts they have on their pre game show and in their announce booths, then i must say that i bow to their knowledge.

          So, mystery expert #1, we'll call you T.B., who would you rather have?

          Boy Howdy, that Andy Moss can stretch a field like nobodies dangum buisness, throw throw throw throw throw throw throw, take it deep, to the house, thats what this kid does!!!!!

          Expert #2, we'll call you BB, who would you rather have?

          Moss catches the ball, and thats what a Wide reciever should do. He can go downfield or go vertical, and when the ball is up in the air, he can go up and get it, thats what i want in a wide reciever. He's got size which is good for jumping, and speed which is good for running.
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          • #6
            hey jave, HOW DO YOU LIKE RANDY MOSS NOW SON? DO YOU LIKE HIM ALOTS AND ALOTS?

            I was right and you were wrong.


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