Midweek Requests

[PikeStance]

It was only a chance discovery and I never thought it was personal. My concern was the decision. My apologies if you felt accused of such.
It would also be more accurate to say I was frustrated, not "upset." Despite what you may think, I wasn't making an "emotional" argument.

[Hooper]

You're the one that decided to bring this up a week later and do a historical analysis. So I assume you mean "I" not "we".

That PM was in response to yours that said you didn't have enough WRs. I looked in the game and saw that you did. What you failed to mention and I had no way of knowing until AFTER I import the files that owners submit, is that you dropped a WR putting you below the minimum. So my PM was perfectly valid. I can't read your mind. Had you said, "I dropped a WR and signed 2. Please put the in my depth chart." my response would've been "Ok".

There's no slippery slope. Most other owners know how to handle this. You will too. You're making it into a WAY bigger deal than it is. Once again, sorry it's upsetting you so much. Nobody is out to get you. There is no conspiracy here.

[PikeStance]

I supposed we are determine to beat a dead horse here.

This was the PM I received

Are you sure you have the latest file? Because I see 4 WRs on your roster of 47 players. And my copy is the official one. So if you aren't seeing that, there may be an issue.

I do not know what he was looking at, but I exported a file with only 3 receivers a a bunch of warnings. The latest file would have four receivers, because prior to exporting I had 4 receivers. Out of frustration, I imported again, and it was exactly what it was before I made the transactions. At this point, I was mad since I already spent way too much time the first time. I won't repeat what I did again from the last post.

As I said, it is a slippery slope when you "decide" which is valid reasons which are not. perhaps with more experience, I can anticipate these problems.

@ Hooper: I said my peace.

[Hooper]

Reasons are not necessary. Since you requested at an inopportune time, I looked at your reason to see if the situation was so bad that it justified changing the schedule for the rest of the league. It did not.

You didn't "need" to sign 2 WRs and release 1. You "wanted" to. Even saying that, you should have been fine if you did it right. Unless your offers weren't accepted, you shouldn't have "lost" anyone. And if we had a midweek, they still would've been rejected if that's the case. I'm sorry you feel "screwed", but if you dropped a WR and signed 2 the only thing this would've "screwed" you out of is setting your WR depth chart for 1 preseason game. Hardly a big deal.

I'm not sure what was frustrating about the PM route. Had you said, "I'm picking up WR1 and WR2. Please put them in my depth chart at WR1 and WR2. Or REX my depth charts. Or whatever." I would have done what you asked.

Your historical analysis is flawed too. You missed the incident that Dawg pointed out. It also doesn't take into account when the midweeks were requested. If someone needed a 3rd QB or their backfield was a mess, it was because of injuries meaning games were already being played.

I think that as you play more MP, you'll see this could have been done differently. And that this is very insignificant in the grand scheme. A FA WR before PS was probably not Jerry Rice. And whether it's true or not, feeling screwed over a free simulation league on the Internet isn't really worth it. It'll all be ok.

[Dawgfan19]

PikeStance,

Thanks for your thorough analysis of midweek request history. It appears these were all midweek requests during the season. But I do believe you may have missed one, however. This midweek was not run for the same reason that your request was denied - it was during the pre-season with no off days.

Can I get a midweek? I want to sign my DT that is holding out and add him to the roster for the final exhibition game.

I just saw this. With no off-days in preseason, midweeks aren't really convenient. Assuming you put in a offer on the DT, I will see if I can add him to your line-up.

[PikeStance]

I needed to sign two receivers and release one. This brought me to just three. I needed the sim to close the deal and then set my depth chart. As far as It is not possible to set the depth chart to playing being sign to the squad. I tried the PM route and that proved equally frustrating. at point I dropped TE I wanted sign one of the two receivers. After the sim, I lost the second receiver. There wasn't an alternative either, so I lost TE I wanted and I am stuck with a receiver I didn't want. Looking through the thread I certainly was not asking for too much. So unless you know a way I could had done what I wanted to do, then I do not think I missed the point.

In in any event, it is a slippery slope to make these sorts of decisions. Either you do sims between each and every game or you grant them whenever they are requested. Unfortunately I thought the latter was what was stated as the purpose of the threat. Is this missing the point? No, it is the point.

[Steel]

I think you're missing the point. As a matter of fact, I know you are. There are no off days between sims during the preseason. When exactly was the midweek sim suppose to run?

[PikeStance]

You are ignoring some key facts. Midweeks are not normally run during the off season and PS games because of the accelerated pace. TC ran 3/7 and PS1 and 2 the next day on 3/8. There was no time for a midweek. Plus, as Hooper mentioned, there were plenty of sims in the off season to get the players you wanted. Further, Hooper did offer to make depth chart adjustments after you signed player(s) before running the games. All you needed to do was PM instructions.
Hooper can chime in with his thoughts as he doesn't need me to defend him. But he is a great commish (other than on St. Patrick's Day ).
I have commish-ed prior leagues and played FOF MP for 6 calendar years. IMO, your midweek request did not fall into the area of "reasonableness".

Well, let's break it down.

There were;
43 request without reason given.
ALL 43 were sim'ed.

There were;
16 request made with a reason given.

Can we get a midweek? I have a possible big trade going down and would rather not do it on a game cycle.

Me and FootballAUS made a trade yesterday and I saw two other teams that also made a trade. In the trade FootballAUS asked if it all can be finalized before tomorrows game. I see it hasn't happened yet, so if you can check into it it be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Ira

Any chance of a midweek this week, I have a kicker to replace and a roster to juggle..

Hate to ask, but I need a midweek. I lost the starting quarterback AND backup quarterback to injury against Anchorage and neither can play. Gotta sign a shlub to face St. Louis. lol

luis, will probably need a mid-week to move and sign Dobranski.

I need a midweek. My backfield is a mess.

midweek needed. Arizona is looking like a MASH unit this year.

I can't field a healthy secondary and need a midweek to sort through the injuries.

I hate to bother you for a midweek over the Thanksgiving holiday, but I am requesting one due to two key injuries.

Requesting a midweek as my punter is injured.

Need a midweek. I have to sign a QB before I can even set a valid lineup. Stupid 3 QB rule...

Is it bad I need another midweek? Too many injuries...

Midweek please. QB went down.

May I request a midweek? Iowa City killed a bunch of Firebirds this week!!

I'd like a midweek. Sorry for the request, but I want to make sure the roster is setup correctly for the last 2 games, given IWC doesn't have enough healthy LBs.

Mid Week Please. Got some guys going to IR

The RED represents injuries | Blue represents trades | Green internal movements of players/signings etc/ technical game issue. | Orange No clue
The Green represents reasons consistent with my own.

The fact is my request was reasonable and within precedent. Moreover, the statement was that midweeks are generally unnecessary, but if anyone needed one, then one would be run. No where in the statement did it inidcate that you have the "beg" or claim to have a "valid" reason. My request was not at all unreasonable and it ended up costing me.

[Hooper]

Midweek Monday 3/19 ... files due by 4pm. I may be a little late due to work. Have them in by 4 just in case though.

[zbuckley]

Mid Week Please. Got some guys going to IR

[Dawgfan19]

I just read read through this entire thread and my request was the only one denied despite fitting the purpose stated below. Moreover giving a valid reason is hardly required since it is not always necessary.

You are ignoring some key facts. Midweeks are not normally run during the off season and PS games because of the accelerated pace. TC ran 3/7 and PS1 and 2 the next day on 3/8. There was no time for a midweek. Plus, as Hooper mentioned, there were plenty of sims in the off season to get the players you wanted. Further, Hooper did offer to make depth chart adjustments after you signed player(s) before running the games. All you needed to do was PM instructions.

Hooper can chime in with his thoughts as he doesn't need me to defend him. But he is a great commish (other than on St. Patrick's Day ).

I have commish-ed prior leagues and played FOF MP for 6 calendar years. IMO, your midweek request did not fall into the area of "reasonableness".

[PikeStance]

I just read read through this entire thread and my request was the only one denied despite fitting the purpose stated below. Moreover giving a valid reason is hardly required since it is not always necessary.

It's just where I import the exports but I don't sim a game. It allows people to make transactions before the game. It is used mostly when you have an injury at a limited position to avoid getting that part of your lineup AI'ed. It's overused in FOF leagues imo, but I do them when requested because I'm a nice guy and the greatest commissioner ever.

[Hooper]

Midweek complete.

19 files imported.

[Hooper]

Midweek Thursday 3/16 ... files due by 4pm.

[joe the commissioner]

Midweek, please.