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    I’m not a FOF defensive guru – everything that I’m about to share is MY TAKE on the information I have gleaned from running the 34 w/ four different teams. Take what you will from this post and please don’t shoot the messenger when you get lit the hell up

    Personnel

    NT



    RD (50)
    PD (50)
    PS (50)
    Do not try to go with an ELEPHANT here! You want a strong DT in the 6-1, 300 lbs range. Having a bigger guy here just isn’t as effective

    DE



    PASS RUSHER (LE)
    RD (50)
    PT (75)
    PS (50)
    PD(50)

    Ideally you want a dominant edge rusher here so that the LT /LG have to deal with him. This allows for 1-on-1 matchups on WLB.

    RUN STUFFER (RE)

    RD (75)
    PS (50)
    PD(50)

    WLB





    PT (75)
    PS (25)
    RD (50)

    Get the best PT/PS combo you can find. These are the only bars that really matter for him – yes, dude can be ZERO in all other attributes and still be effective. If you can get a WLB that can also play the run, you’ll not get gashed on the weak side run. If you forego the run-stuffing ability make sure your RCB / FS can play the run. If this guy has low endurance—find a duplicate player and platoon the position. I currently have two sub 20 overall guys rushing the passer on my GEFL2 team.

    SILB / WILB



    RD (50)
    ZN (50)
    BP (50)
    PD (50)
    PH (50)*

    These are the only bars I pay attn to when drafting inside backers – PT/PS are nice to have as these guys blitz occasionally but you can do fine without. Zone is touted as the only pass coverage you need to look for here over on FOFC. As I play a 34/46 Cover2, these guys need the bump coverage.


    SLB




    RD (50)
    MN(50)
    ZN (50)
    BP (50)
    PD (50)
    PH(50)*

    This is where you spend our draft pick on talent. You want an absolute stud here as this guy is going to do everything. In my system, he moves inside on Dime/Nickel packages as needed.

    LCB/RCB




    RD (50)
    MN (25)
    ZN (25)
    BP (75)
    PD (50)
    IN (50)

    This depends on YOUR preference as I’ve had success running a pure M2M system as well—I just like the physical aspect of my version.
    My 34 is almost all bump coverage. I normally don’t go as heavy as I did last season but my pass rush was effective enough to warrant it.
    Beware -- without a consistent pass rush, you will get burnt running this defense as the corners release the receiver to the safeties after the initial bump – make sure your safeties are capable.
    Place a premium on the INT / PD bars here and the system will surprise you.


    SS/FS






    Next we breakdown the defensive attacks used against OAK / WV last season with an actual screenshot walkthrough of the defense if you guys are interested.

    * the numbers in parens are the recommended minimum values for position.
    Last edited by VitoStallion; 07-05-2013, 10:29 AM.
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  • #2
    Good stuff. Just a question/point: In real life football the LDE is left from the defense's POV and thus goes against the RT/TE. Reverse for RDE. Is FOF backwards in this case? I thought FOF was usually/always strong to the rightside, which would put the WLB on the defense's right (offense's left) and the LDE going against the usual RT/TE on the defense's left.

    Glad so see some FOF breakdown knowledge on the 3-4, which I've never been able to do very well though I only try it in IFL pre-seasons.

    Little press for my WLB on the trade block (found here): He goes well with Vito's scheme.
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    • #3
      I think the sides are reversed in FOF -- at least that's how I build these out.
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      • #4
        Damn visuals would be nice. I might load up a Solo Player game to see if they show them on the "choose individual play" screen.
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        • #5
          I need to assemble the screen captures so I'll be posting these in parts over the next couple of days in case someone is looking to make the switch from a 4-3.

          Do note that you can easily & effectively switch between the two fronts if you keep extra DTs on the roster.
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          • #6
            The LDE lines up against the RT and the RDE or WLB line up against the LT. You can read game logs of who got beat on pass plays to verify this.
            Last edited by Juggernaut; 07-04-2013, 11:00 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Juggernaut View Post
              The LDE lines up against the RT and the RDE or WLB line up against the LT. You can read game logs of who got beat on pass plays to verify this.

              cool
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Juggernaut View Post
                The LDE lines up against the RT and the RDE or WLB line up against the LT. You can read game logs of who got beat on pass plays to verify this.
                Are these "game logs" hidden FOF files or the regular "logs" available via solovision and schedules? I read about them on FOFC and they sound more informative than what I'm aware of. For instance, the SLB and LDE would usually battle the TE if not a RT/TE combo but I'm not sure this is available in the "logs" that I see.
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                • #9
                  I have never even considered that the DL could be backwards. Thats so fundemental I am certain whats his face had to have gotten it correct









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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by VitoStallion



                    I have the worst time posting pictures to the forum -- I'm trying via google drive hosting. Is there a better way?


                    The reason I think of the alignment as I do is because of the screens and I'm wrong per the helpfile

                    Hell this could be the reason my Ravens defense doesn't react the way my others do -- I use a pass rushing RE in Dynasty and they do get more pressure.
                    you have to host them and link them. don't think you can upload pictures.
                    NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
                    DE JUSTIN JONES
                    LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
                    TE THOMAS MACOMBER
                    LT IRWIN KAO
                    WR ANDREW ROBEY
                    SS GREGORY BOYD
                    RB ALAN CRESPO
                    G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
                    WR WALTER WALKER
                    G AMOS BAILEY
                    QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
                    RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
                    WR JOSE HOOVER
                    K BUTCH SCHULZ
                    LB MACK EDWARDS
                    DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
                    WR JESSE LUCAS
                    C NORMAN ENRIGHT
                    SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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                    • #11
                      I said it wrong -- I'm hosting AND link via both my Gdrive and Skydrive -- I can't get the images to display. Let me try Flickr acct next.
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                      • #12
                        The Alignment Question



                        So based on the helpfile we really should be playing California at the RE position to achieve an overload of the protection.


                        Tested this today by moving my rushers to the RE position; 22/22 WLB responded with 5 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 Knockdowns, 1 hurry and a FF with a 6.8 PR %
                        Last edited by VitoStallion; 07-05-2013, 05:36 PM.
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                        Dir. Football Ops
                        Lansing Ogres
                        2030 Imperial League Champions
                        _____
                        RING OF HONOR:
                        RB James Tart [HOF], WR Grady Gomez, QB Nigel Booker, OLB Stephen Srait

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                        • #13
                          maybe it has something to do with your sharing?
                          otherwise, i have no clue.
                          NEWARK BULLDOGS WALL OF HONOR
                          DE JUSTIN JONES
                          LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
                          TE THOMAS MACOMBER
                          LT IRWIN KAO
                          WR ANDREW ROBEY
                          SS GREGORY BOYD
                          RB ALAN CRESPO
                          G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
                          WR WALTER WALKER
                          G AMOS BAILEY
                          QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
                          RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
                          WR JOSE HOOVER
                          K BUTCH SCHULZ
                          LB MACK EDWARDS
                          DE STEPHEN BRIGHAM
                          WR JESSE LUCAS
                          C NORMAN ENRIGHT
                          SS JUNIOR EL NIN0



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                          • #14
                            Imageshack.... create an account there, upload the image, then copy the FORUM photo link, and paste directly.

                            That's how I do it....
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Matt View Post
                              maybe it has something to do with your sharing?
                              otherwise, i have no clue.

                              You're right Matt. I'm going to try to the Imageshack approach
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                              Lansing Ogres
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                              RB James Tart [HOF], WR Grady Gomez, QB Nigel Booker, OLB Stephen Srait

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