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  • Free Agency - Out of the Box

    I have been thinking about the discussion in the other thread and have tried to come up with something new ... so I'll run this up the flagpole and see what reaction & critique you guys have. I think it is a pretty novel idea as I haven't seen this approach or discussion in any other leagues. And there might be good reason why it isn't, but in any case here goes.

    1. During the off-season only, bids for free agents must reflect salaries that are not more than what is minimally required in the game and for each year of the term offered.
    2. The signing bonus can be of any amount desired.
    3. There is no limit as to the contract term of the offer.

    This year, the minimum salaries (as established in the game) are:
    2 year vet = $400k
    3 year vet = $480k
    4 year vet = $560k
    5-7 year vet = $660k
    8-10 year vet = $790
    10+ year vet = $900k


    Example: WR Joe Runningshoes 7 year vet. I want to offer this vet a two year contract.

    Year 1: Salary = $660; Year 2 =$790; I then add a $2,000 bonus to complete my offer.

    Discussion:
    1. This system eliminates salary as decision maker for the game or at least puts all managers in the same place in regard to salary.
    2. Hopefully, the game accurately differentiates the offers based on term, the amount of guaranteed bonus offered, and whatever intangible code might be hidden under the covers, i.e loyalty.
    3. All contracts can be renegotiated the following year in the same manner as other owned players under contract. This will not reduce salary because it is already at minimum but may be desired in order to increase length of contract.


    Tear it apart gentlemen ( and I use that word loosely!)
    Last edited by r00k; 03-14-2009, 01:18 AM.

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    your a trouble maker and I have always hated you - lol
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    • #3
      seriously, so every base would be minimum. Only the guranteed bonus, the length and wether last year is voidable and how would be a variable.

      With base salaries at minimum why renegotiate??? Holdouts?

      I admit it is interesting. would not prevent outliner contract for players, but would force owner to pay the price at some point.

      Interesting for sure.
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      • #4
        It's early and maybe I should revisit this idea once I'm awake, but if the guy is asking like 5-6 million a year, everyone is going to offer him base salary?

        I'm confused....

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        • #5
          tits a fantastic idea. it basically means no one can pull a Torres and it all comes down to how much guaranteed money you want to give. this way salary cap matters again cuz the only way to land the guys you want is to have a lot of free money available to hand out. it's a great idea. we need to implement this NOW. i love it.


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          • #6
            this idea is just for FA correct?

            seems like an interesting idea.
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            • #7
              I really don't get it. Can someone explain it? How will one owner outbid another? And what about other factors, like, "play for winner"? Teams that suck would be at a huge disadvantage here as I'm not offering enough money to tempt the guy from signing with a Lawrence or Norfolk.

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              • #8
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jave View Post
                  I really don't get it. Can someone explain it? How will one owner outbid another? And what about other factors, like, "play for winner"? Teams that suck would be at a huge disadvantage here as I'm not offering enough money to tempt the guy from signing with a Lawrence or Norfolk.
                  i think what he is saying is use the base salary and the only thing you can change is the signing bonus.
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                  LB DOMINGO PERSAUD
                  TE THOMAS MACOMBER
                  LT IRWIN KAO
                  WR ANDREW ROBEY
                  SS GREGORY BOYD
                  RB ALAN CRESPO
                  G MALCOLM "BIG KAT" SINGLETON
                  WR WALTER WALKER
                  G AMOS BAILEY
                  QB DWIGHT "KING" BURGER
                  RB GARY "THE SITUATION" JAMISON
                  WR JOSE HOOVER
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Matt View Post
                    i think what he is saying is use the base salary and the only thing you can change is the signing bonus.
                    Ok, and what are the benefits of this plan? Where does the signing bonus actually come from? The available cap the team has left to spend?

                    I have to admit, I am NOT well versed in the inner workings of the salary cap which is why this idea confuses me. What would be the advantage to using a "bonus only" strategy in terms of the offers made during free agency?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Kobeck View Post
                      your a trouble maker and I have always hated you - lol
                      :cry:

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Kobeck View Post
                        seriously, so every base would be minimum. Only the guranteed bonus, the length and wether last year is voidable and how would be a variable.

                        With base salaries at minimum why renegotiate??? Holdouts?

                        I admit it is interesting. would not prevent outliner contract for players, but would force owner to pay the price at some point.

                        Interesting for sure.
                        With base salaries, there is no need to negotiate unless you are in the last year of an original two year term or perhaps you want to lock in a guy for a longer term. This negotiation will cost you more cap and probably salary over the minimum.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Jave View Post
                          It's early and maybe I should revisit this idea once I'm awake, but if the guy is asking like 5-6 million a year, everyone is going to offer him base salary?

                          I'm confused....
                          You must off the $5 to $6 mil in bonus and multiply that bonus times the number of years of the proposed contract.

                          With this system, if you want a FA, you better be serious, cause you will pay the piper every dime of that bonus that you offer. And if you really want a player and you have millions in cap, then spend that cap anyway you want ... but again once spent it is gone.

                          In the Torres deal, the bonus on the original deal would have been around $80 mil and it would have been guaranteed money with no chance to renegotiate it down.

                          Now this is ONLY for OFF-Season FA negotiations. Other negotiations are handled as they are now.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hell Atlantic View Post
                            tits a fantastic idea. it basically means no one can pull a Torres and it all comes down to how much guaranteed money you want to give. this way salary cap matters again cuz the only way to land the guys you want is to have a lot of free money available to hand out. it's a great idea. we need to implement this NOW. i love it.

                            and HA, with all that extra money that EVERYONE has now, the market is wide open to all ... but it is a mechanism to take money off the table in the game ... once committed, it is spent.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Matt View Post
                              this idea is just for FA correct?

                              seems like an interesting idea.
                              This is only for FA in the OFF SEASON.

                              You would negotiate with FA as they are handled now once the season starts.

                              It would applyh to FA1 and FA2 ) (after the draft). So if you want that rookie that was missed in the draft ... pony up some guaranteed cap.

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